How many LNPs per dose, and how many mRNA strands per LNPs (known as payload) is still not understood. That is because no one really knows HOW to measure these LNPs. Also, these are "nano" particles and people really don't understand what this means.
This is a massive amount of toxic particles being sent around the body. I wonder would that not be enough to explain all the injuries to other cells and organs without having to explain this by the spike protein production story? Most people seem to want to believe that transfection is occurring in cells but I am sceptical about this. For one thing, this model comes from Pharma and we know they do not communicate the reality about what these products do and how they behave. The presence of ‘expressed’ spike protein in vaccinated body samples has, as far as I am aware, only ever been inferred indirectly using an antigen test (ELISA or similar) claimed to indicative of SP antibodies. But I am also aware that these tests are criticised as being non-specific. This is a much lower standard of proof than a test which detects the actual thing that is being claimed to be present. I wonder why this is not being done.
This seems to be an important question which is not being addressed.
Why does it matter? It looks like a whole new medical treatment industry will be set up to mitigate vaccine induced sickness & to cure ‘spike protein’ diseases. Will this turn out to be another phantom disease scam with special treatment protocols which are no warranted or scientifically based just as occurred for ‘Covid’?
I agree with you 100%....I am well aware that "mode of action" of all drugs is in the main conjecture, and often owes more to the needs of marketing departments than scientists.
My helicopter view is that they injected inflammatory industrial gunk into people in large quantities.
Due to the complexity of manufacturing, and the lack of proper quality controls inevitable with such an unprecedented scale-up, it is also likely that there are huge functional differences between different batches or even different draws from the same vial.
BTW if you've not seen, Clare Craig and I wrote the below about the fixation with spike:
Thanks Jonathan. I read the article you co-authored with Clare Craig. I think it is great that you have a productive collaboration with Claire even though you do not share the same viewpoint about the existence / origins of the alleged pathogen .
Other qualified people have also pointed out the complexity of the whole alleged cellular transfection and expression mechanism and voiced doubts that the raised levels of antibodies in the blood of vaccinated people is due to expressed protein when there are other ingredients in the shots which could elicit a general immune response. This is from a Norwegian cell biologist last year - maybe you have seen this. He is asking all the right questions. https://odysee.com/@shortXXvids:e/Kjetil-Elvevold---Spike-Protein-Story-Pt-2:a
You have mentioned the risk that if the villain of the injections is uncritically assumed to be the spike protein then a 'quick fix' for the platform will simply be to choose a different non- controversial protein. Surely, it must be possible to apply a direct measurement technique on the blood of vaccinated individuals (S. Scoglio says isolation of proteins in the blood is something done 'routinely'). If spike cannot be detected then this would consign the whole platform technology to the rubbish bin - where it belongs.
The platform proponents would say that the cells expressing the protein are destroyed by the immune system, together with any expressed protien, so you may not find any free protein, only antibodies.
Hmmm … that is very convenient. The only other way I could imagine to settle this is to have some LNPs made up without the m-RNA payload (a kind of placebo LNP, if that is even possible) and inject this. Another possibility might be to take a different application of the technology i.e. for a different disease (flu perhaps) and see if injected people test positive for spikes using ELISA.
A living zombie from inside, their blood is not pure not. A genetically modified organism the jabbed ones are, GMO. Covid vaccines are not vaccines but gene therapies that changes human dna. Changes your blood. No more you. You are owed by the government. That’s right government can not implement digital id without covid gene therapy, but no one is saying a word not even on this Substack which is quite surprising.
We’ve no evidence of systematic genetic modification. And there are so many mechanisms of toxicity, it’s unlikely to matter in the end.
Stepping back a moment, I can tell you that genetic modification of an intact, adult animal doesn’t work. That’s why almost all such work is done at the single cell stage or, through embryo selection, at post fertilisation stage.
It’s very difficult to induce cells to take up foreign genetic information, for obvious reasons. It’s particularly difficult in a complex, delicate setting like a living animal.
I’m not ruling it out as occasionally happening, but it certainly won’t GM a whole person. That’s SciFi.
The x trillion nanoparticles around the body does indeed represent a lot of potential transfection. However, (correct me if I'm wrong), to get a measure of actual transfection, the x trillions of nanoparticles in a shot needs to be divided by the average number of LNPs which comprise the "globules" (there will be a correct technical term for this which I don't for now have), each of which contains mRNA and other substances such as DNA and promoters. The latter as I understand it are the potential agents of transfection. Can anyone advise on this more expertly, please? This is aside of course from the dangers of toxicity from the nano particles in themselves, which is another issue.
How many LNPs per dose, and how many mRNA strands per LNPs (known as payload) is still not understood. That is because no one really knows HOW to measure these LNPs. Also, these are "nano" particles and people really don't understand what this means.
I do a deep dive here
https://mariagutschi.substack.com/p/the-strange-world-of-nano
Thank you! I wish I'd seen that before...
This is a massive amount of toxic particles being sent around the body. I wonder would that not be enough to explain all the injuries to other cells and organs without having to explain this by the spike protein production story? Most people seem to want to believe that transfection is occurring in cells but I am sceptical about this. For one thing, this model comes from Pharma and we know they do not communicate the reality about what these products do and how they behave. The presence of ‘expressed’ spike protein in vaccinated body samples has, as far as I am aware, only ever been inferred indirectly using an antigen test (ELISA or similar) claimed to indicative of SP antibodies. But I am also aware that these tests are criticised as being non-specific. This is a much lower standard of proof than a test which detects the actual thing that is being claimed to be present. I wonder why this is not being done.
This seems to be an important question which is not being addressed.
Why does it matter? It looks like a whole new medical treatment industry will be set up to mitigate vaccine induced sickness & to cure ‘spike protein’ diseases. Will this turn out to be another phantom disease scam with special treatment protocols which are no warranted or scientifically based just as occurred for ‘Covid’?
Here is a confirmation that such an approach is being set up: https://substack.com/@johncatanzaro752375/p-149351381
I agree with you 100%....I am well aware that "mode of action" of all drugs is in the main conjecture, and often owes more to the needs of marketing departments than scientists.
My helicopter view is that they injected inflammatory industrial gunk into people in large quantities.
Due to the complexity of manufacturing, and the lack of proper quality controls inevitable with such an unprecedented scale-up, it is also likely that there are huge functional differences between different batches or even different draws from the same vial.
BTW if you've not seen, Clare Craig and I wrote the below about the fixation with spike:
https://sanityunleashed.substack.com/p/spike-from-the-virus-is-like-spike
Thanks Jonathan. I read the article you co-authored with Clare Craig. I think it is great that you have a productive collaboration with Claire even though you do not share the same viewpoint about the existence / origins of the alleged pathogen .
I first realised that the story about how m-RNA injections are supposed to operate might be suspect after listening to a discussion with Stefano Scoglio (at least 2 years ago). Here is a short clip from my channel: https://odysee.com/@shortXXvids:e/S-Scoglio---No-Evidence-of-Spike-Proteins:d
Other qualified people have also pointed out the complexity of the whole alleged cellular transfection and expression mechanism and voiced doubts that the raised levels of antibodies in the blood of vaccinated people is due to expressed protein when there are other ingredients in the shots which could elicit a general immune response. This is from a Norwegian cell biologist last year - maybe you have seen this. He is asking all the right questions. https://odysee.com/@shortXXvids:e/Kjetil-Elvevold---Spike-Protein-Story-Pt-2:a
You have mentioned the risk that if the villain of the injections is uncritically assumed to be the spike protein then a 'quick fix' for the platform will simply be to choose a different non- controversial protein. Surely, it must be possible to apply a direct measurement technique on the blood of vaccinated individuals (S. Scoglio says isolation of proteins in the blood is something done 'routinely'). If spike cannot be detected then this would consign the whole platform technology to the rubbish bin - where it belongs.
I am just puzzled why this is not being done.
The platform proponents would say that the cells expressing the protein are destroyed by the immune system, together with any expressed protien, so you may not find any free protein, only antibodies.
Hmmm … that is very convenient. The only other way I could imagine to settle this is to have some LNPs made up without the m-RNA payload (a kind of placebo LNP, if that is even possible) and inject this. Another possibility might be to take a different application of the technology i.e. for a different disease (flu perhaps) and see if injected people test positive for spikes using ELISA.
Anyway, the Ogata paper Marc cites here (which I now recall reading but had forgotten about) seems to measure it:
https://x.com/girardotmarc/status/1656676633993175040
As does this.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/prca.202300048
A living zombie from inside, their blood is not pure not. A genetically modified organism the jabbed ones are, GMO. Covid vaccines are not vaccines but gene therapies that changes human dna. Changes your blood. No more you. You are owed by the government. That’s right government can not implement digital id without covid gene therapy, but no one is saying a word not even on this Substack which is quite surprising.
We’ve no evidence of systematic genetic modification. And there are so many mechanisms of toxicity, it’s unlikely to matter in the end.
Stepping back a moment, I can tell you that genetic modification of an intact, adult animal doesn’t work. That’s why almost all such work is done at the single cell stage or, through embryo selection, at post fertilisation stage.
It’s very difficult to induce cells to take up foreign genetic information, for obvious reasons. It’s particularly difficult in a complex, delicate setting like a living animal.
I’m not ruling it out as occasionally happening, but it certainly won’t GM a whole person. That’s SciFi.
So while their outside appears same as ours, the injected are wholly different inside than us
There's a big error in this sum.
Perplexity has assumed that the volume of the dose is wall to wall LNPs.
I made it admit its mistake https://www.perplexity.ai/search/all-you-have-done-in-this-sum-EtQN0JcvRLO4dJ0BdJOvbg
I am not sure how to calculate the actual dose without more info on the mass. https://www.perplexity.ai/search/surely-the-sum-should-be-a-how-TTksLvLkQ8uEWG5TV6kbaA
Thanks, see:
https://sanityunleashed.substack.com/p/further-discussion-on-yesterdays
The x trillion nanoparticles around the body does indeed represent a lot of potential transfection. However, (correct me if I'm wrong), to get a measure of actual transfection, the x trillions of nanoparticles in a shot needs to be divided by the average number of LNPs which comprise the "globules" (there will be a correct technical term for this which I don't for now have), each of which contains mRNA and other substances such as DNA and promoters. The latter as I understand it are the potential agents of transfection. Can anyone advise on this more expertly, please? This is aside of course from the dangers of toxicity from the nano particles in themselves, which is another issue.