Prasad has always been - and will always be - a lukewarm "centrist" with the effective job in this charade to say whatever the Now-Allowable Thing is to say. I've seen no indication that he is rooted in principles or genuine inquiry.
As usual, you put matters sensibly. I have a harder time being sensible about Prasad, though. His careerist, cowardly sophistry in the last four years have me wishing a place for him in Dante’s schema. Not in the innermost circle, but close. I don’t trust a “the” or a “but” or an “and” coming from him.
I trust him and his slithering semantics exactly zero. I challenged him frequently on Twitter "back in the day" until I decided I was giving him too much airtime with my replies and QTs.
What a wonderful article. And I never thought about it much, but it did always seem to me Mr. Woodhouse is more than just a comic foil in that novel, ridiculous though he is. The Box Hill scene does look different when you consider Emma’s constant care for her father. A lapse, not a deep indictment of Emma, her treatment of Miss Bates. Anyway, I started the inappropriate hijacking of this thread, so I’ll stop for now.
The question of Austen's best is a tough one. At the risk of mis-using this comment section for literary debate, I can't NOT respond to your challenge.
I could make good arguments for any of the (completed) novels as her best, but if forced, must choose "Emma." I recall after finishing the novel the first time around saying out loud (to no one), "THAT was the most perfect book I've ever read."
What's so remarkable is that the protagonist doesn't really change much, nor do her circumstances. She's also not all that likable or easy to empathize with. The same things can't be said for other Austen heroines.
On a tangential note, I recommend this insightful essay:
As long as you are "here," can you please address your perspective on what occurred in New York City in the spring of 2020?
(Apologies to Dr. Engler for co-opting his comment board for a tangential question, but because he & I have presented together and written about the New York [& N Italy] events, I expect he will understand me "seizing the opportunity" to pose this critical question to you.)
He talks of lumping 20yr old men in with 80yr old women, which is ridiculous to do, but have they really looked at the harm caused in the older populations? Many older people injured and died under the umbrella of it being due to their age with absolutely no one investigating any other cause. They cannot hide it so successfully with the younger age group so they eventually have to admit to harm caused and it being a mistake but continue to defend it as being necessary in older people. Thus they keep alive the myth of the power of vaccination and especially now mRNA. I just think of it all being a con game, protection racket and belief system for the viral and vaccine snake oil salesmen.
Re the older populations, consider this statement made by Arne Akbar at a Lords' Committee meeting in June 2020, considering 'the science' of COVID-19:
QUOTE
I hate to keep bringing up flies in the ointment. To have a good vaccine is very important, but vaccines do not work very well in older people. This has been shown with many other vaccines in the past-" Arne Akbar says: "The vaccine alone will help the younger people, which will be good, because if the younger people are not infected they will not spread it to the older people. But it will not directly help the older group very much, and they are the people with the most severe disease right now."
END OF QUOTE
So it was already known "vaccines do not work very well in older people".
And they were planning to vaccinate younger people, who didn't need a vaccine, to purportedly protect the old.
Consider also this statement by Peter Openshaw at the Lords' Committee Meeting:
QUOTE
Sometimes it is possible to protect a vulnerable group by targeting another group. This is being done with influenza, for example. Over the past few years, the UK has been at the forefront of rolling out the live attenuated vaccine for children, because children amplify the
distribution of the virus in the community. It is possible to see that grandparents are being protected by the vaccination of children that are in school using this very benign, nasally delivered vaccine that causes good protection in the nose and respiratory tract. Even though children themselves do not always suffer from severe flu, that is a very simple non-injectable form of vaccine that causes wider protection in the community. So you can get indirect protection using that type of community-based approach to limit the spread.
END OF QUOTE
They've been pulling this racket for years, vaccinating the young to purportedly protect the old - how unethical is this?!?!?
And pressing vaccines on older people knowing they don't work...
I think this is called FRAUD!!!
* See my email to Arne Akbar and Peter Openshaw...no response received of course...
Even assuming for a moment the EUA 'vaccines' had turned out to be 100% "safe - and effective" (they were neither), WHY did Prasad push for the mass vaccination of children and young adults with a potentially harmful new drug for a disease they were at zero risk from?
John Ioannidis: "I think when we are moving to the younger age groups, indeed the risks are very, very, very low. Both the risks from the vaccine, they're extremely low probably. And also the risks from coronavirus itself." - 11:30
John Ioannidis: "People were terrified with a virus and then they were terrified with the vaccines and then they were terrified with omicron and they were terrified about everything. So I don't want have people terrified about harms of vaccines. This will be a very wrong message." - 47:50
Vinay Prasad: "I think many people, myself included, we wrote many things saying that there's got to be a way to reap most of the benefits of vaccination and mitigate the harms [of myocarditis in young males] such as a one dose strategy, change the dose, space the doses out, let's try different things." - 1:10:20
Re "The COVID-19 vaccine has been a miraculous, life-saving advance, offering staggering efficacy in adults..."
Efficacy against what?
The WHO acknowledged from the beginning most people weren't at serious risk of disease.
And at a media event held on 5 March 2020, with US 'Military Medical Leaders' discussing "countermeasures" to "protect the citizens of the world", infectious disease expert Nelson Michael let slip the bombshell, unnoticed by journalists, that the purported threat was really "a low risk infection...even in the absence of a vaccine". (See: https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/a-low-risk-infection-even-in-the)
So how on earth did we end up with a global mass population 'vaccine solution' for a low risk infection?!?!?
The past four years have been absolutely INSANE, and now we have the likes of Vinay Prasad endeavouring to maintain the twisted narrative, with ridiculous statements such as "The COVID-19 vaccine has been a miraculous, life-saving advance, offering staggering efficacy in adults..."
When is someone going to effectively cut through the crap and really blow the lid on this scandal...
THERE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN A GLOBAL MASS POPULATION VACCINATION CAMPAIGN AGAINST A LOW RISK INFECTION!!!
"The time from sequencing the virus to authorizing the first COVID-19 vaccine was so brisk even the optimists appear close-minded."
Someone might want to tell Vinay that sequencing doesn't represent biological reality- genomic sequencing is scientific quackery. They might also want to tell him they didn't do even the phony "proper sequencing" with SARS-CoV-2 they did an assemblage process to obtain the desired result.
They may also want to tell him that the "miraculous speed of science" program with the "Covid vaccine" was a pre-planned aspect of the entire operation so as to normalize the erasure of lengthy and costly Phase 3 clinical trials moving forward. This has been one of Pharma's wet dreams for the past two decades which they speak about openly and often throughout trade journals.
One of the chief purposes of the SARS-CoV2 chimera was to get mRNA past the regulatory barriers into use because it was at the top of the Biodefense mafia's wish list for "rapid response vaccines."
CEPI was set up expressly for this internationalized "pandemic preparedness" scam - a global system
invented to pump out 100 million doses of vaccine X for "sequenced" and mythical "Disease X" in 100 days deployed whenever and wherever they want to at public expense.
CEPI’s stated objective is to reduce vaccine development timelines in the future to a mere 100 days. This means CEPI aims to facilitate the production of new vaccines several times a year. CEPI still continues to work closely with the Gates Foundation. In May 2021, CEPI announced a new survey meant to map out the vaccine manufacturing capability in areas such as Africa and Latin America. The announcement stated that the survey will be built on “landscaping exercises” performed in collaboration with the Gates Foundation.
"A number of countries call this commitment the 100-day mission — referring to the number of days it should take to develop a safe, effective vaccine after the sequencing of a novel pandemic virus. This would require serious investment from governments and close partnership with private sector vaccine manufacturing companies to establish much faster processes in research and development, clinical trials, regulatory review and more. It would require more investment in technologies such as mRNA that could be used for a range of Disease X threats. Right now, a large majority of government funding to help develop vaccines and medicines for pandemics is for existing, known pathogens, as opposed to preparing for future unknowns."
I agree with you...I have never felt it worked and still have no business agreeing with anyone who told us it worked. great paper here. I like his work but IMO he has been wrong on vaccine this vaccine.
I commented on his post that transfection wasn't novel and like flu shots would not elicit mucosal immune responses but posed a significant risk of auto-immune reactions. Until people like him address core issues like that, they may as well faucis.
Here’s what Prasad says on his own blog; compare it with the extract from the abstract:
“ First, let us be clear, the benefit of COVID vaccination is small, uncertain or not present in several populations. For instance, there is no reliable evidence anyone who had COVID previously had a further reduction in severe disease from getting a dose (or 7 doses) of vaccine.”
Are we looking at yet another instance of authors having to make unsupported statements in favour of the vaccine in order to get published?
Good to see Vinay somewhat exposed as the mealy mouth ameliorator of the Covid-1984 Humanicide. He is still talking out of both sides of his mouth at once (slithering semantics as a commentator, Jessica, accurately describes it) and saying nothing but a smokescreen for the Global Predators.
Vinay has damaged DNA and blood on his hands and should feel guilty and full of shame. He obviously does not—and I venture to say, never will.
Vinay with his buddy in deceitful duplicity, ZDogg, are both, to me, despicable mouthpieces for the Status/Statist Quo.
I note you say Vinay removed a comment you made on his YouTube? The same thing happened to me when I left the comment below on
VPZD SHOW! EPISODE 30 - SUDDEN DEATH IN ATHLETES; MYOCARDITIS; FDA FIASCOS; DO DRUGS EXPIRE; MORE Jan 12, 2023
Vinay and ZDogg, this quote appropriately applies to you both:
"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves." Eric Hoffer
You are both complicit--willingly ignorant and/or unwillingly aware--in the iatrogenic democide being perpetrated by the vaccines, the lockdowns, the ventilators and Remdesivir death treatments, the prohibition of vermectin. Etc. View the athlete sudden deaths objectively documented nere
Read Steve Kirsch's analysis of deaths caused by Covid Vaccines; you can wager with him to disprove his figures and he will give you "10X your wager if you can show we got it wrong and the data shows the opposite conclusion." So what are you two waiting for, easy money?
Your refusal to acknowledge the Elephant on your laps is, again, understandable, but your resort to a lame explanation of Commotio Cordis could only be made by an absence of examining the film of the event and listening to informed commentary.
As I began with an appropriate quote, I will end with one
He who is unaware of his ignorance, will only be misled by his knowledge." Richard Whately
That’s what’s always bothered me about Prasad. On the one hand he continually bemoans how intellectually dishonest and anti-science our public health officials have been throughout Covid when it comes to things like masks, shut downs and boosters, yet at the same time he trusts the stats those same people give on vaccine efficacy and how miraculous the C19 vaccines are for old people. He’s either suffering from major cognitive dissonance or he really is that stupid.
I think he knows he’s been stupid, his brain clouded by fear of the virus. But he’s not man enough to admit his mistake. And hence this utter nonsense he writes.
Prasad has always been - and will always be - a lukewarm "centrist" with the effective job in this charade to say whatever the Now-Allowable Thing is to say. I've seen no indication that he is rooted in principles or genuine inquiry.
As usual, you put matters sensibly. I have a harder time being sensible about Prasad, though. His careerist, cowardly sophistry in the last four years have me wishing a place for him in Dante’s schema. Not in the innermost circle, but close. I don’t trust a “the” or a “but” or an “and” coming from him.
I trust him and his slithering semantics exactly zero. I challenged him frequently on Twitter "back in the day" until I decided I was giving him too much airtime with my replies and QTs.
What a wonderful article. And I never thought about it much, but it did always seem to me Mr. Woodhouse is more than just a comic foil in that novel, ridiculous though he is. The Box Hill scene does look different when you consider Emma’s constant care for her father. A lapse, not a deep indictment of Emma, her treatment of Miss Bates. Anyway, I started the inappropriate hijacking of this thread, so I’ll stop for now.
By the way, it’s a minority opinion, but Sense and Sensibility is Austen’s best. I’ll defend that opinion if I have to!
The question of Austen's best is a tough one. At the risk of mis-using this comment section for literary debate, I can't NOT respond to your challenge.
I could make good arguments for any of the (completed) novels as her best, but if forced, must choose "Emma." I recall after finishing the novel the first time around saying out loud (to no one), "THAT was the most perfect book I've ever read."
What's so remarkable is that the protagonist doesn't really change much, nor do her circumstances. She's also not all that likable or easy to empathize with. The same things can't be said for other Austen heroines.
On a tangential note, I recommend this insightful essay:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/opinion/jane-austens-guide-to-alzheimers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.p00.K8rK.Toq0wqvz2fnj&smid=url-share
I like your work Jessica...I will promote
I don't want you to promote me.
I want you to answer me. https://open.substack.com/pub/sanityunleashed/p/vinay-prasad-wants-it-both-ways?r=jjay2&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=55919550
I WOULD not go that far...but his support of the shots worried me for there is no evidence, none. but he IMO is doing good...but I agree with you.
Hello, Dr. Alexander.
As long as you are "here," can you please address your perspective on what occurred in New York City in the spring of 2020?
(Apologies to Dr. Engler for co-opting his comment board for a tangential question, but because he & I have presented together and written about the New York [& N Italy] events, I expect he will understand me "seizing the opportunity" to pose this critical question to you.)
He talks of lumping 20yr old men in with 80yr old women, which is ridiculous to do, but have they really looked at the harm caused in the older populations? Many older people injured and died under the umbrella of it being due to their age with absolutely no one investigating any other cause. They cannot hide it so successfully with the younger age group so they eventually have to admit to harm caused and it being a mistake but continue to defend it as being necessary in older people. Thus they keep alive the myth of the power of vaccination and especially now mRNA. I just think of it all being a con game, protection racket and belief system for the viral and vaccine snake oil salesmen.
Yes, Amat, vaccine snake oil salesmen...
Re the older populations, consider this statement made by Arne Akbar at a Lords' Committee meeting in June 2020, considering 'the science' of COVID-19:
QUOTE
I hate to keep bringing up flies in the ointment. To have a good vaccine is very important, but vaccines do not work very well in older people. This has been shown with many other vaccines in the past-" Arne Akbar says: "The vaccine alone will help the younger people, which will be good, because if the younger people are not infected they will not spread it to the older people. But it will not directly help the older group very much, and they are the people with the most severe disease right now."
END OF QUOTE
So it was already known "vaccines do not work very well in older people".
And they were planning to vaccinate younger people, who didn't need a vaccine, to purportedly protect the old.
Consider also this statement by Peter Openshaw at the Lords' Committee Meeting:
QUOTE
Sometimes it is possible to protect a vulnerable group by targeting another group. This is being done with influenza, for example. Over the past few years, the UK has been at the forefront of rolling out the live attenuated vaccine for children, because children amplify the
distribution of the virus in the community. It is possible to see that grandparents are being protected by the vaccination of children that are in school using this very benign, nasally delivered vaccine that causes good protection in the nose and respiratory tract. Even though children themselves do not always suffer from severe flu, that is a very simple non-injectable form of vaccine that causes wider protection in the community. So you can get indirect protection using that type of community-based approach to limit the spread.
END OF QUOTE
They've been pulling this racket for years, vaccinating the young to purportedly protect the old - how unethical is this?!?!?
And pressing vaccines on older people knowing they don't work...
I think this is called FRAUD!!!
* See my email to Arne Akbar and Peter Openshaw...no response received of course...
Peter Openshaw and Arne Akbar - Is it ethical to vaccinate the young to purportedly protect the old? 6 September 2022: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/peter-openshaw-and-arne-akbar-is-it-ethical-to-vaccinate-the-young-to-purportedly-protect-the-old.pdf
Even assuming for a moment the EUA 'vaccines' had turned out to be 100% "safe - and effective" (they were neither), WHY did Prasad push for the mass vaccination of children and young adults with a potentially harmful new drug for a disease they were at zero risk from?
Same for Ioannidis. See video December 2021 where they advocate for young people to get jabbed. Staggering. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvEOwKUyur0
John Ioannidis: "I think when we are moving to the younger age groups, indeed the risks are very, very, very low. Both the risks from the vaccine, they're extremely low probably. And also the risks from coronavirus itself." - 11:30
John Ioannidis: "People were terrified with a virus and then they were terrified with the vaccines and then they were terrified with omicron and they were terrified about everything. So I don't want have people terrified about harms of vaccines. This will be a very wrong message." - 47:50
Vinay Prasad: "I think many people, myself included, we wrote many things saying that there's got to be a way to reap most of the benefits of vaccination and mitigate the harms [of myocarditis in young males] such as a one dose strategy, change the dose, space the doses out, let's try different things." - 1:10:20
John Ioannidis says “So I don't want have people terrified about harms of vaccines. This will be a very wrong message."
Wow! What a good little disciple of the Church of Vaccination is John Ioannidis…
He knew ‘Covid-19’ was not a serious threat to most people, so why did he promote the vaccines?
I challenged him about this directly, see:
- John Ioannidis urges Australia to "push for vaccination very fast..." Why? 21 September 2021: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/john-ioannidis-urges-australia-to-_push-for-vaccination-very-fast..._-why_.pdf
- COVID-19 vaccination in Australia and John Ioannidis' advice. 1 October 2021: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/covid-19-vaccination-in-australia-and-john-ioannidis-advice-1.pdf
Re "The COVID-19 vaccine has been a miraculous, life-saving advance, offering staggering efficacy in adults..."
Efficacy against what?
The WHO acknowledged from the beginning most people weren't at serious risk of disease.
And at a media event held on 5 March 2020, with US 'Military Medical Leaders' discussing "countermeasures" to "protect the citizens of the world", infectious disease expert Nelson Michael let slip the bombshell, unnoticed by journalists, that the purported threat was really "a low risk infection...even in the absence of a vaccine". (See: https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/a-low-risk-infection-even-in-the)
So how on earth did we end up with a global mass population 'vaccine solution' for a low risk infection?!?!?
The past four years have been absolutely INSANE, and now we have the likes of Vinay Prasad endeavouring to maintain the twisted narrative, with ridiculous statements such as "The COVID-19 vaccine has been a miraculous, life-saving advance, offering staggering efficacy in adults..."
When is someone going to effectively cut through the crap and really blow the lid on this scandal...
THERE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN A GLOBAL MASS POPULATION VACCINATION CAMPAIGN AGAINST A LOW RISK INFECTION!!!
"The time from sequencing the virus to authorizing the first COVID-19 vaccine was so brisk even the optimists appear close-minded."
Someone might want to tell Vinay that sequencing doesn't represent biological reality- genomic sequencing is scientific quackery. They might also want to tell him they didn't do even the phony "proper sequencing" with SARS-CoV-2 they did an assemblage process to obtain the desired result.
They may also want to tell him that the "miraculous speed of science" program with the "Covid vaccine" was a pre-planned aspect of the entire operation so as to normalize the erasure of lengthy and costly Phase 3 clinical trials moving forward. This has been one of Pharma's wet dreams for the past two decades which they speak about openly and often throughout trade journals.
One of the chief purposes of the SARS-CoV2 chimera was to get mRNA past the regulatory barriers into use because it was at the top of the Biodefense mafia's wish list for "rapid response vaccines."
CEPI was set up expressly for this internationalized "pandemic preparedness" scam - a global system
invented to pump out 100 million doses of vaccine X for "sequenced" and mythical "Disease X" in 100 days deployed whenever and wherever they want to at public expense.
CEPI’s stated objective is to reduce vaccine development timelines in the future to a mere 100 days. This means CEPI aims to facilitate the production of new vaccines several times a year. CEPI still continues to work closely with the Gates Foundation. In May 2021, CEPI announced a new survey meant to map out the vaccine manufacturing capability in areas such as Africa and Latin America. The announcement stated that the survey will be built on “landscaping exercises” performed in collaboration with the Gates Foundation.
"A number of countries call this commitment the 100-day mission — referring to the number of days it should take to develop a safe, effective vaccine after the sequencing of a novel pandemic virus. This would require serious investment from governments and close partnership with private sector vaccine manufacturing companies to establish much faster processes in research and development, clinical trials, regulatory review and more. It would require more investment in technologies such as mRNA that could be used for a range of Disease X threats. Right now, a large majority of government funding to help develop vaccines and medicines for pandemics is for existing, known pathogens, as opposed to preparing for future unknowns."
- Tom Inglesby
great stack Jonathan...I will promote...
All these pretenders have to do is call the experimental shots a “vaccine” and I’m done. Transfection. Say it.
He’s a cunt, a soulless money grabbing one at that and O wouldn’t trust him to set a mouse trap never mind anything else.
I agree with you...I have never felt it worked and still have no business agreeing with anyone who told us it worked. great paper here. I like his work but IMO he has been wrong on vaccine this vaccine.
I commented on his post that transfection wasn't novel and like flu shots would not elicit mucosal immune responses but posed a significant risk of auto-immune reactions. Until people like him address core issues like that, they may as well faucis.
Here’s what Prasad says on his own blog; compare it with the extract from the abstract:
“ First, let us be clear, the benefit of COVID vaccination is small, uncertain or not present in several populations. For instance, there is no reliable evidence anyone who had COVID previously had a further reduction in severe disease from getting a dose (or 7 doses) of vaccine.”
Are we looking at yet another instance of authors having to make unsupported statements in favour of the vaccine in order to get published?
His enthusiasm seems to go well beyond that. There are other more neutral ways of expressing the necessary sentiment to get over that hurdle.
Good to see Vinay somewhat exposed as the mealy mouth ameliorator of the Covid-1984 Humanicide. He is still talking out of both sides of his mouth at once (slithering semantics as a commentator, Jessica, accurately describes it) and saying nothing but a smokescreen for the Global Predators.
Vinay has damaged DNA and blood on his hands and should feel guilty and full of shame. He obviously does not—and I venture to say, never will.
Vinay with his buddy in deceitful duplicity, ZDogg, are both, to me, despicable mouthpieces for the Status/Statist Quo.
I note you say Vinay removed a comment you made on his YouTube? The same thing happened to me when I left the comment below on
VPZD SHOW! EPISODE 30 - SUDDEN DEATH IN ATHLETES; MYOCARDITIS; FDA FIASCOS; DO DRUGS EXPIRE; MORE Jan 12, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOQF2JNZug4
MY COMMENT:
Vinay and ZDogg, this quote appropriately applies to you both:
"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves." Eric Hoffer
You are both complicit--willingly ignorant and/or unwillingly aware--in the iatrogenic democide being perpetrated by the vaccines, the lockdowns, the ventilators and Remdesivir death treatments, the prohibition of vermectin. Etc. View the athlete sudden deaths objectively documented nere
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/
Read Steve Kirsch's analysis of deaths caused by Covid Vaccines; you can wager with him to disprove his figures and he will give you "10X your wager if you can show we got it wrong and the data shows the opposite conclusion." So what are you two waiting for, easy money?
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/death-reports-prove-that-the-covid
Finally, here is Dr Peter McCullough that neither of you, understandably, mentioned with his analysis of the Damar Hamlin "Sudden Cardiac Arrest"
https://vigllantiox.substack.com/p/dr-peter-mccullough-provides-in-depth
Your refusal to acknowledge the Elephant on your laps is, again, understandable, but your resort to a lame explanation of Commotio Cordis could only be made by an absence of examining the film of the event and listening to informed commentary.
As I began with an appropriate quote, I will end with one
He who is unaware of his ignorance, will only be misled by his knowledge." Richard Whately
END OF COMMENT
Get free, stay free.
That’s what’s always bothered me about Prasad. On the one hand he continually bemoans how intellectually dishonest and anti-science our public health officials have been throughout Covid when it comes to things like masks, shut downs and boosters, yet at the same time he trusts the stats those same people give on vaccine efficacy and how miraculous the C19 vaccines are for old people. He’s either suffering from major cognitive dissonance or he really is that stupid.
I think he knows he’s been stupid, his brain clouded by fear of the virus. But he’s not man enough to admit his mistake. And hence this utter nonsense he writes.
Full time score: Jonathan 1 Vinay zip.
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Petroleum Based Synthetic Injections
Are Not Compatible
With Water Based Human Bodies.
This Is Not Complicated People.
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Prasad is the worst type of coward…