Recently, a relative (who describes himself as a “believer in science”) asked me what I thought generally about Ozempic (and, by implication its look-alikes), citing several Economist articles which he found rather exciting.
Prozac was a failed weight loss drug, repurposed as an anti depressant and ozempic was a failed diabetes drug repurposed as a weight loss drug.
It seems like every time they have a failed drug they just use it elsewhere, without addressing the original fkin issues.
Same with the clot shots, way way before con-vid and mRNA vaporware bullshit, the lipid platform was causing the same issues. But for some reason the alt health people focus on spike protein and mRNA pseudoscience.
Further to your point, Viagra is a failed heart medication, repurposed as a cure for a limp willy. The fact is that many, if not most, drugs marketed to the general public are marketed based upon side-effects versus primary purposes. It's a nice racket!
I would add to your list that the very manner in which they create disease categorization, which gets the ball rolling for the "cures", is fraught with rigged studies and preset conclusions.
Public health policy is now strictly a matter of financialization constructed to benefit investors. Global healthcare spending hit a record high in 2021 at $9.8 trillion, or 10.3% of global gross domestic product (GDP).
Manufactured diseases, conditions, epidemics, pandemics etc. are all designed to create new investment products that increase the holdings of billionaires and further concentrate their wealth.
Flowing from this is government funding (free public money for the medical syndicate) to create financial products that transfer wealth from society to shareholders. Medicine is increasingly nothing but a financial product.
Virtually all of the politicians, academics, scientists and media parrots are spokespeople for the investor class and their job is to create financial instruments for the investor class which they happily do as they receive lavish kickbacks for their services.
Re: “Is it any good if people lose weight over a few months if it totally rebounds so that you have to be on it for life when there is no understanding of long-term effects”
You have to be on it for life…
It’s horrifying how people are being caught into a net of repeat medical interventions throughout life.
Who is facilitating this? The frontline sales force - the doctors.
People being trapped into a never-ending spiral of statins, proton pump inhibitors, anti-depressants, vaccines, etc, etc.
It’s the corrupted medical profession facilitating this - how do we bring them to account?
Here’s an example of doctors collaborating with the vaccine industry:
The vaccine industry sponsors vaccination education for doctors... Yes, really... The Royal Australian College of General Practitioners is in bed with the vaccine industry-sponsored Immunisation Coalition
Interesting. They mean for it to be perceived as, say, a Hydration Coalition advocating for drinking water across the lifespan to promote health and fight thirst. With educational conferences held at plush spa resorts because: water, people!
The feeding frenzy around these weightloss drugs is indescribably disgusting. Every week or two they come out with some new fake study that shows some other ostensible reason for them to be prescribed. I've lost count now but I do recall that they will stop heart disease, counter addictions and prevent dementia according to pharma funded small studies.
Soon they may be approved for government coverage via medicare and medicaid in the US (as Biden tries to loot the treasury a bit more on his way out,) essentially moving them to 'human right' status. All to extract as much profit as possible while they are on patent. Watch how quickly they are forgotten when the patents expire like countless other scams.
That’s one hell of a reply … it saddens me to a certain extent that as a layman I’ve attempted to have conversations with normie friends and family about topics like the biopharma industrial complex and their corrupt, media-driven ironclad grasp on their “consumers”, but am almost always disregarded as uninformed or “not an expert” because they’ve read similar sources as the articles you cite. Whilst I’m getting better at trying to distill simple concepts from the layman’s perspective during these conversations, there’s no getting over the problems inherent in people’s unthinking belief in “experts”.
They still use the strapline The Economist: Independent Journalism. They don’t allow journalists to use their bylines and they’re owned by the Agnelli, Rothschild, Schroder and Cadbury family interests. An online subscription is about £200 per year and total subscribers are about 500,000. My guess is that subscription income is about £100m out of group revenue of £367m. Their political stance is radical centrist, whatever that means. They’re a business newspaper representing business interests.
All true and I especially love the analogy at the end. Ozempic and the other copycat drugs were initially marketed as therapy for a made-up disease called Type 2 Diabetes. The "acceptable" levels of blood glucose were then ratcheted down in order to create more "patients" who needed drugs and medical monitoring. Now they have focused on a surrogate measurement---A-1-C. These maneuvers increased the demand for the drug but it went to the moon once the side effect of weight loss was promoted.
Rewind 15 yrs or so....dinner in Hong Kong with a friend ... he has brought along his friend who had recently quit a job as a journalist at the Economist...
We listened as he explained how journalism works... it's now what people think --- we go out seeking the truth ... rather we are sent out with an agenda... and asked to get quotes and support for the agenda...
I asked him what if he determines the agenda is wrong ... and comes back with a story that does not support the agenda?
The editor will lose his shit and send me back out to rewrite it.... if I refuse ... I will be fired.
I still recall that he was not happy with the dinner bill (cuz he now had some low paying job...) and bitching at my buddy saying I thought this place was meant to be cheap....
Journalists have less integrity than a whore... the more they get paid... the higher their profile... the bigger the whore.
A friend went in search of a new more open minded doctor. When asked to bring all his meds into the new doctor they basically cut in half what he was taking. Almost immediately the fluid in his legs went away, his heart was much better and his insulin levels stabilised. Admittedly he was on several things to start with and lost his wife so a lot of stress. But yes - I was on the PPI's for years. Been off all medication for some years now. So important to find a doctor that has your interests at heart. It would seem few do.
At the risk of sounding like just another fan-boy, I'll just say it. This is fantastic! (For the 1027th time, it amazes me to have met so many like-minded people as a direct result of the Great Covid Dumpster Fire. Serendipity is a thing.)
Anyway, the vicious cycle you note relative to Pharma products is prevalent and observable in government action generally. By way of example, here is an explanation of ObamaCare from an economist I follow named Bryan Caplan:
ObamaCare Simplified:
1. Regulation 1: Insurers cannot turn people down due, for example, to pre-existing conditions.
2. Regulation 2: Insurers cannot charge higher prices to people they would otherwise have turned down. (Mitigates obvious effect of first regulation.)
3. Regulation 3: People must buy insurance, as opposed to waiting until the last minute, which they might do, since they cannot be denied coverage, nor will obtaining coverage cost more because they waited. (Mitigates obvious effect of first 2 regulations.)
4. Regulation 4: Paying for insurance must be subsidized, since the results of the first 2 regulations is higher prices for everyone, and since the result of the third regulation is a lot more people needing help paying for the higher-priced insurance. (Mitigates obvious effect of first 3 regulations.)
The WSJ has likewise been running articles on semaglutides without much caution. It's good to refer your friend to pharmaceutical failures as illustrated by the settlements list. Have we progressed much farther than snake oil?
On that settlement list is Merck, for Vioxx. Eric Topol wrote about Vioxx for the NEJM in 2004: Failing the Public Health — Rofecoxib, Merck, and the FDA, https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp048286. I was able to use that article in a "conversation" with a friend on social media after the ACIP approved the covid shots for children, to try to dissuade parents while evading the intense censorship.
Nowadays Mr. Topol is on Substack. He writes Ground Truths, covering medical research news. You will find out how Long Covid manifests in just about every imaginable symptom, and since everyone has had Covid, everyone might have Long Covid to blame for his or her current distress, therefore semi-annual shots are advised for all high-risk individuals. His latest entry in this genre, https://open.substack.com/pub/erictopol/p/the-indomitable-covid-virus.
Excellent, this short post contains all you need to understand whats going on. I always loved bullet points to convey a message. Adding items would only dillute the strong message.
However....
I planned to add a acomment. Wrong medicine usage is known to be the #3 cause of death in our part of the world. I wanted to add that remark here in the comments.
I was searching for some data on that topic, and found publications from 2019, even on main stream channels, clearly stating that point.
Looking at cause of death statistics however, there is no mention of wrong medicin usage as a cause of death though. At least not in the Central Bureau of Statistics in the Netherlands. the category does not exist.
This seems in stark contrast with the generally accepted fact that wrong medicine usage is number 3 in causes of deaths. There is a 15% 'other causes of death'. And a 'non-natural' category wjhich peaked strongly in 2020 and 2021.
Could not find this on the ONS site. Not much time today. But I'd say it's odd, or part of the plot, or am I imagining conspiracies now?
Prozac was a failed weight loss drug, repurposed as an anti depressant and ozempic was a failed diabetes drug repurposed as a weight loss drug.
It seems like every time they have a failed drug they just use it elsewhere, without addressing the original fkin issues.
Same with the clot shots, way way before con-vid and mRNA vaporware bullshit, the lipid platform was causing the same issues. But for some reason the alt health people focus on spike protein and mRNA pseudoscience.
https://robc137.substack.com/p/years-before-mrna-and-spike-protein
Further to your point, Viagra is a failed heart medication, repurposed as a cure for a limp willy. The fact is that many, if not most, drugs marketed to the general public are marketed based upon side-effects versus primary purposes. It's a nice racket!
That's a strong response.
I would add to your list that the very manner in which they create disease categorization, which gets the ball rolling for the "cures", is fraught with rigged studies and preset conclusions.
Public health policy is now strictly a matter of financialization constructed to benefit investors. Global healthcare spending hit a record high in 2021 at $9.8 trillion, or 10.3% of global gross domestic product (GDP).
Manufactured diseases, conditions, epidemics, pandemics etc. are all designed to create new investment products that increase the holdings of billionaires and further concentrate their wealth.
Flowing from this is government funding (free public money for the medical syndicate) to create financial products that transfer wealth from society to shareholders. Medicine is increasingly nothing but a financial product.
Virtually all of the politicians, academics, scientists and media parrots are spokespeople for the investor class and their job is to create financial instruments for the investor class which they happily do as they receive lavish kickbacks for their services.
Re: “Is it any good if people lose weight over a few months if it totally rebounds so that you have to be on it for life when there is no understanding of long-term effects”
You have to be on it for life…
It’s horrifying how people are being caught into a net of repeat medical interventions throughout life.
Who is facilitating this? The frontline sales force - the doctors.
People being trapped into a never-ending spiral of statins, proton pump inhibitors, anti-depressants, vaccines, etc, etc.
It’s the corrupted medical profession facilitating this - how do we bring them to account?
Here’s an example of doctors collaborating with the vaccine industry:
The vaccine industry sponsors vaccination education for doctors... Yes, really... The Royal Australian College of General Practitioners is in bed with the vaccine industry-sponsored Immunisation Coalition
https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/the-vaccine-industry-sponsors-vaccination
Shame on them for being fat in the first place.
Interesting. They mean for it to be perceived as, say, a Hydration Coalition advocating for drinking water across the lifespan to promote health and fight thirst. With educational conferences held at plush spa resorts because: water, people!
The feeding frenzy around these weightloss drugs is indescribably disgusting. Every week or two they come out with some new fake study that shows some other ostensible reason for them to be prescribed. I've lost count now but I do recall that they will stop heart disease, counter addictions and prevent dementia according to pharma funded small studies.
Soon they may be approved for government coverage via medicare and medicaid in the US (as Biden tries to loot the treasury a bit more on his way out,) essentially moving them to 'human right' status. All to extract as much profit as possible while they are on patent. Watch how quickly they are forgotten when the patents expire like countless other scams.
<The biopharma-industrial complex is as committed to good health as the arms industry is to world peace.>
Wonderful summary, thank you, well worth quoting. Of course they both do the same, harm and kill for profit.
And largest firms and indeed majoity of firms in USA.
Remdesivir is a deadly failed “Ebola” drug, wheeled out to do the job during the casedemic.
That’s one hell of a reply … it saddens me to a certain extent that as a layman I’ve attempted to have conversations with normie friends and family about topics like the biopharma industrial complex and their corrupt, media-driven ironclad grasp on their “consumers”, but am almost always disregarded as uninformed or “not an expert” because they’ve read similar sources as the articles you cite. Whilst I’m getting better at trying to distill simple concepts from the layman’s perspective during these conversations, there’s no getting over the problems inherent in people’s unthinking belief in “experts”.
They still use the strapline The Economist: Independent Journalism. They don’t allow journalists to use their bylines and they’re owned by the Agnelli, Rothschild, Schroder and Cadbury family interests. An online subscription is about £200 per year and total subscribers are about 500,000. My guess is that subscription income is about £100m out of group revenue of £367m. Their political stance is radical centrist, whatever that means. They’re a business newspaper representing business interests.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Group
"The biopharma-industrial complex is as committed to good health as the arms industry is to world peace."
I am borrowing this sentence.
All true and I especially love the analogy at the end. Ozempic and the other copycat drugs were initially marketed as therapy for a made-up disease called Type 2 Diabetes. The "acceptable" levels of blood glucose were then ratcheted down in order to create more "patients" who needed drugs and medical monitoring. Now they have focused on a surrogate measurement---A-1-C. These maneuvers increased the demand for the drug but it went to the moon once the side effect of weight loss was promoted.
Rewind 15 yrs or so....dinner in Hong Kong with a friend ... he has brought along his friend who had recently quit a job as a journalist at the Economist...
We listened as he explained how journalism works... it's now what people think --- we go out seeking the truth ... rather we are sent out with an agenda... and asked to get quotes and support for the agenda...
I asked him what if he determines the agenda is wrong ... and comes back with a story that does not support the agenda?
The editor will lose his shit and send me back out to rewrite it.... if I refuse ... I will be fired.
I still recall that he was not happy with the dinner bill (cuz he now had some low paying job...) and bitching at my buddy saying I thought this place was meant to be cheap....
Journalists have less integrity than a whore... the more they get paid... the higher their profile... the bigger the whore.
And btw - all of the authors on SS are to a certain degree... in that club https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/substack-a-ministry-of-truth-production
We bleat and whine ... and the readers high five thinking this is progress... so they take no real action to enact change
A friend went in search of a new more open minded doctor. When asked to bring all his meds into the new doctor they basically cut in half what he was taking. Almost immediately the fluid in his legs went away, his heart was much better and his insulin levels stabilised. Admittedly he was on several things to start with and lost his wife so a lot of stress. But yes - I was on the PPI's for years. Been off all medication for some years now. So important to find a doctor that has your interests at heart. It would seem few do.
Spot on, brilliant stack!!
At the risk of sounding like just another fan-boy, I'll just say it. This is fantastic! (For the 1027th time, it amazes me to have met so many like-minded people as a direct result of the Great Covid Dumpster Fire. Serendipity is a thing.)
Anyway, the vicious cycle you note relative to Pharma products is prevalent and observable in government action generally. By way of example, here is an explanation of ObamaCare from an economist I follow named Bryan Caplan:
ObamaCare Simplified:
1. Regulation 1: Insurers cannot turn people down due, for example, to pre-existing conditions.
2. Regulation 2: Insurers cannot charge higher prices to people they would otherwise have turned down. (Mitigates obvious effect of first regulation.)
3. Regulation 3: People must buy insurance, as opposed to waiting until the last minute, which they might do, since they cannot be denied coverage, nor will obtaining coverage cost more because they waited. (Mitigates obvious effect of first 2 regulations.)
4. Regulation 4: Paying for insurance must be subsidized, since the results of the first 2 regulations is higher prices for everyone, and since the result of the third regulation is a lot more people needing help paying for the higher-priced insurance. (Mitigates obvious effect of first 3 regulations.)
The WSJ has likewise been running articles on semaglutides without much caution. It's good to refer your friend to pharmaceutical failures as illustrated by the settlements list. Have we progressed much farther than snake oil?
On that settlement list is Merck, for Vioxx. Eric Topol wrote about Vioxx for the NEJM in 2004: Failing the Public Health — Rofecoxib, Merck, and the FDA, https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp048286. I was able to use that article in a "conversation" with a friend on social media after the ACIP approved the covid shots for children, to try to dissuade parents while evading the intense censorship.
Nowadays Mr. Topol is on Substack. He writes Ground Truths, covering medical research news. You will find out how Long Covid manifests in just about every imaginable symptom, and since everyone has had Covid, everyone might have Long Covid to blame for his or her current distress, therefore semi-annual shots are advised for all high-risk individuals. His latest entry in this genre, https://open.substack.com/pub/erictopol/p/the-indomitable-covid-virus.
Excellent, this short post contains all you need to understand whats going on. I always loved bullet points to convey a message. Adding items would only dillute the strong message.
However....
I planned to add a acomment. Wrong medicine usage is known to be the #3 cause of death in our part of the world. I wanted to add that remark here in the comments.
I was searching for some data on that topic, and found publications from 2019, even on main stream channels, clearly stating that point.
Looking at cause of death statistics however, there is no mention of wrong medicin usage as a cause of death though. At least not in the Central Bureau of Statistics in the Netherlands. the category does not exist.
This seems in stark contrast with the generally accepted fact that wrong medicine usage is number 3 in causes of deaths. There is a 15% 'other causes of death'. And a 'non-natural' category wjhich peaked strongly in 2020 and 2021.
Could not find this on the ONS site. Not much time today. But I'd say it's odd, or part of the plot, or am I imagining conspiracies now?