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Dr Christine Dewbury's avatar

Very thought provoking article that has a distinct ring of truth, unlike most of the official narratives we have been force-fed for years. My trust in politicians, the medical profession, the regulatory authorities, the pharmaceutical industry, billionaire philanthropists, main stream, medical and scientific media has been shaken to the core. As a retired doctor I have had to revisit all of my medical training and assumptions and question everything. Thank you, and others at HART, and all those writing in the alternative media for providing so much food for thought. Your efforts have been much appreciated.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

It's pretty amazing how despite the evidence to the contrary, many still cling onto their "scientific" fairy tales.

The viral theory of disease is a crazy idea that invaders somehow hack our cells to copy themselves. They're dead but somehow alive. Sounds like fantasy to me!

Then there's this super complicated genius immune system that even they cannot figure out. Why? Because it's not that complicated, it's a garbage collection system!

https://robc137.substack.com/p/fix-the-foundation-before-the-roof

https://barn0346.substack.com/p/life-is-not-a-battle

The rest of germ theory also falls apart when considering basic ideas. Bacteria only feed on dead matter. Right now there's strep A in your throat and e-coli in your digestive system and guess what, you're not infected right now. Hmmm 🤔

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

"Germ theory" fell apart in its inception when first proposed by Pasteur in the mid 1800s; not only Bechamp but other scientists of the same epoch showed through countless experiments that outside "microbes" did not cause disease; in fact, Bechamp went on to prove that the "germs of the air" were and are the remains of living organisms of animals and plants(the microzymes); they are neither parasitic nor pathogenic elements; this does not mean that there weren't bacterial or "viral" forms that could be opportunistic in invading the cells and tissues of weakened immune systems; but these particles are not themselves the cause of disease but a reaction to an imbalance somewhere in the body and a warning that our cells need restoration.

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MSB's avatar

Thank you, you've said exactly what I often repeat i.e. the susceptibility comes first. I'm surprised the author didn't give you a 'like', or maybe I'm not.

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Jonathan Engler's avatar

Are we not ever allowed time off (even for good behaviour?!) from monitoring and "liking" comments?

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MSB's avatar

You're so funny!

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Ernest N. Curtis's avatar

The covid experience led me to reconsider the dogma I had learned in medical school 50 years ago and accepted without giving it much thought. I came to the same conclusions as you and am now firmly in the "no virus" camp. The concept that inert particles containing nucleic acid enclosed in a protein coat can enter a living cell and take over its metabolic machinery is absurd. The claim that such particles can be created in a lab is equally absurd.

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Dan...'s avatar

Great news. I do admire people who change their minds (an awkward phrase, I know) towards re-assessing what they believed just a minute ago AND are ready to openly admit it.

This is how we all should approach everything in our lives.

Thank you for this excellent article and the detailed reasoning.

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Anna Cordelia's avatar

I had the same thoughts reading the opening lines of this article.

My respect for Jonathan's work was already high, but his willingness to openly admit he was wrong about things in the past, and has changed his mind since, is a great act of integrity the rest of us would be wise to emulate.

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David Booth's avatar

This is a really helpful bringing together of the main advances in understanding that you and team have contributed over the last few years. Putting it in the context of things you used to accept is a bonus. Thanks!

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

Microscopists go looking for a so-called "virus" and use the term as though they already KNOW what they are looking for...and it MUST be a "virus"; so virologists confirm that they must exist even though modern electron microscopes KILL everything living in any live specimen because of the radiation used in the process; the Sars-Covid-2 "virus" has NEVER been cultured and isolated anymore than ANY OTHER "virus" has; what can be observed are EXOSOMES (mistakenly called viruses) which living cells expel as unwanted or toxic debris; but even more are particles which Antoine Bechamp pand which are basic to ALL cell life in animals and plants; he called them MICROZYMAS because they were living ferments that produced enzymes; the microzymas function to keep our cells (tissues,etc,) in a state of balance or homeostasis(healthy) as long as their environment is not disturbed or invaded during which time they may change function(polymorphism) and react under toxic stress in the form of bacteria, etc. or even cancers (not a coincidence that much of cancer research is now focussed on metabolic origins as opposed to genetics); what came to be called "terrain theory" and ascribed to Bechamp was never really a "theory" but the result of meticulous scientific methods employed by Bechamp over many decades.

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Andrew Cooper's avatar

Brilliant summary Jonathan. ‘Covid’ only makes any sense once you realise it was all lies, everything.

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Rosie Langridge's avatar

Agree. It's a very useful perspective and I say the same thing, about climate change as well of course. What else is wholly lies unmixed with truth?

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TNK's avatar

Excellent summary of the numerous holes in the pandemic narrative and "The Science" supporting it. This sums it up well:

"As I have stated elsewhere, “the pandemic” was - in my view - constructed using these ingredients:

Propaganda

Targeted dystopian hospital and care home policies

Fraudulent testing

Data fraud

Notably, the “recipe” did not and does not require a new pathogen."

And it's really quite an easy recipe to whip up in this day and age. Much easier to pull off than creating a super virus in a lab that somehow "survives" in the wild, "spreading" far and wide yet selectively respecting various political boundaries while not sickening non-locked down galivanting elites. Super virus indeed.

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Baldmichael's avatar

A great summary and analysis, thank you Jonathan. I have tried along with others to engage with Clare Craig on the virus deceit but have had no response.

As regards seeing something called a virus, of course as cell debris, waste from metabolism, more might be expected in a diseased person.

It is akin to building waste during refurbishment, such as my wife and I are having done on our house as I write. More debris arises to be carted away than from everyday activities.

I may have said before but the pandemic is a 'med panic', the anagram, a medical panic.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/coronavirus-is-it-really-a-monster?utm_source=publication-search

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Hamish Soutar's avatar

Good work. One of the strangest things about this episode has been the widespread assumption that something never existed before it was discovered. Followed by the assumption that if you look for something that “could” be the cause, and you find what you’re looking for, then you have indeed found the cause.

In 1939 (I think) Christopher Andrewes used the newly invented electron microscope to identify something isolated from a patient with the illness called influenza. He and his team seem to have assumed they had found “the” cause of influenza, and accordingly called it the influenza virus. Subsequently of course, he and many others found that it’s rather more complex, yet that mistaken first idea that the influenza virus is the specific cause of the influenza illness has taken root. The same will surely be true about the illnesses called covid: there will be multiple causes, which may or may not involve one or more viruses.

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Laura Noncomplier's avatar

Hear hear Jonathan!! Well said and I totally concur. This business of choosing which anti-narrative to go with in the Covid dissident army is a nonsense. It’s is the truth that we seek, that we crave and that must be spoken. No more and no less. Bravo to you for clarifying your stance, that’s how science works

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Ivan Iriarte's avatar

Great article, Jonathan. Like you (my best guess) I was educated in a conventional allopathic medical school. In the past, I also subscribed to the "viruses are responsible for all terrible diseases" theory, and would think that anyone not accepting that was just an ignorant fool. Since the covid "pandemic" I have come to reevaluate all the available evidence... and have come to seriously question a lot of things that I considered "obvious truths" in the past. Without repeating every argument that you have presented in your article, I believe we are basically on the same page regarding this issue. I also think it is a false dichotomy to think that if you do not believe viruses are the cause of pandemics, that it necessarily means that "viruses don't exist".

Regardless of whether viruses exist or not, since day 1 of the "pandemic" I was preaching about the ridiculous idea of defining "covid" with a pcr test, the many examples in the past of false epidemics generated by unnecessary testing... counting "covid deaths"... and other absurdities that happened with the approval of supposedly knowledgeable medical doctors. I still find everything hard to believe.

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Gwen Shannon's avatar

I read an article about using PCR to detect a species of fish that are troublesome to othe inhabitants of the same tropical waters. The PCR testing of water samples would suggest the danger fish was present, but was never spotted by divers searching diligently for them. Guess what any trace to that article disappeared after testing was ramped up.

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Holly McC's avatar

Thank you for this.

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Jeff burt's avatar

“ secondly, a story that a rogue state or non-state actor has caused “a lab leak” would be incredibly easy to plant, notwithstanding that such research was banned.”

Absolutely, and this is why I’m so intent on calling into question whether “viruses” actually exist. Peoples’ faith in virus has already caused a great deal of harm. Until the myth is put in its proper place, we are susceptible to more “gain of function” lab leak PHEICs. When no one believes the myth, we are safe, just like women are now safer that “witch trials” are known to be wrong. Let’s not forget once upon a time, it was popular belief, “scientific concensus.”

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Thank you, Jonathan.

Mike

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