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Yes, Jonathan, what a stunning statement by Heidi Larson...

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...We've shifted the human population...to dependency on vaccine-induced immunity...We're in a very fragile state now. We have developed a world that is dependent on vaccinations.

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I included this quote in my BMJ rapid response published on 25 March 2020.

I also included reference to Neil Ferguson, who was pushing the 'vaccine solution' - it wasn't properly disclosed at the time that Ferguson was funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, arguably the world's biggest vaccine pusher...

See my BMJ rapid response: https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1089/rr-6

Is it ethical to impede access to natural immunity? The case of SARS-CoV2

Dear Editor

If children, young adults and others can mount their own effective immune response to SARS-CoV2, is it ethical to impede their ability to access natural immunity by interfering with the natural progression of the virus?

According to the WHO, "Illness due to COVID-19 infection is generally mild, especially for children and young adults."[1]

Is the focus on future fast-tracked vaccine products blocking full consideration of the opportunity for natural herd immunity? Who is Neil Ferguson to say "The only exit strategy [in the] long term for this is really vaccination or other forms of innovative technology that allows us to control transmission".[2]

In regards to young people's and others' right to natural immunity, it's also vital to consider the startling admission by Heidi Larson, Director of The Vaccine Confidence Project, during the recent WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit, i.e. "...We've shifted the human population...to dependency on vaccine-induced immunity...We're in a very fragile state now. We have developed a world that is dependent on vaccinations".[3]

This is a very alarming statement by Professor Larson, particularly with the prospect of other epidemics emerging in the future. We have to learn to deal with epidemics and illnesses as they emerge, it's not feasible to vaccinate the global population against every threat.

In a recent article raising concern about making decisions about this pandemic without reliable data, John Ioannidis notes that "School closures may also diminish the chances of developing herd immunity in an age group that is spared serious disease".[4] The UK's chief scientific adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, raised the prospect of developing natural herd immunity[5], but this idea was subsequently howled down by Matt Hancock, the UK secretary of state for health and social care[6], and others such as Willem van Schaik, a professor of microbiology and infection, as reported by the Science Media Centre.[7]

Again, is it ethical to deny children, young people and others their opportunity for natural immunity, and to plan to make them dependent on vaccine-induce immunity, to in effect make them dependent on the vaccine industry?

This is even more serious to consider in light of emerging vaccine product failures, e.g. pertussis and mumps.

The international community must be assured that independent and objective thinkers are carefully considering the way ahead on this matter.

25 March 2020

Elizabeth M Hart

Independent citizen investigating the over-use of vaccine products and conflicts of interest in vaccination policy

Adelaide, Australia

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And don't forget Event 201 , held in October 2019, predating this conference in December. It was sponsored and attended by all the usual suspects and they gamed out in great detail how to respond to a pandemic caused by a "novel coronavirus". I can't believe they haven't scrubbed this from the internet.

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Oh we're not forgetting Event 201 held in October 2019...

A "high-level pandemic exercise" held in partnership between The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

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The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.

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https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/tabletop-exercises/event-201-pandemic-tabletop-exercise

Those oh so lucrative 'public/private partnerships'...

And then just a few months later...

Bill Gates is leading the 'race for a coronavirus vaccine', and insisting: "...we need to make the vaccine available to almost every person on the planet": https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/we-need-to-make-the-vaccine-available

A software billionaire, who invests in vaccines, was running international vaccination policy, has been for years - how could this happen?

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Thanks for digging out all that info Elizabeth.

'public/private partnerships' anagrams to:

I prep BP PR satanic evil hurt

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See comment below re "The Covert Event 201" - run by the Five Eyes nations in December 2019 - input by Elizabeth Hart:

https://democracymanifest.substack.com/p/the-covert-event-201-pacific-eclipse

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its not scrubbed from internet bec it still pushes that virus are real. once more people study share www.VirusTruth.NET and read books like Contagion Myth and VirusMania free on this site, the vax pharma falls bec fear of catching illness goes away. cant catch illness, you build it with fake food, pesticides, smoking, alcohol etc..

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Of course it pushes the narrative. The point is that the dates show that the whole thing was meticulously planned in advance.

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Oct 25·edited Oct 25Liked by Jonathan Engler

"We have a very wobbly health professional front-line, that is starting to question vaccines and the safety of vaccines. That’s a huge problem." -- Heidi Larson - WHO Global Vaccine Summit, December 2-3, 2019.

Also in early December 2019: the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand held a "highly sensitive" pandemic tabletop exercise, with over 200 invited 'international stakeholders' - across government, private sector and NGO (including WHO)- from the Five Eyes nations and Europe. The "hypothetical pandemic scenario" was set in the year 2020, and factored in the impact of the US presidential election and Brexit. The event was conducted by the US DoD and "PLuS Alliance" of universities (KCL, UNSW Sydney and ASU).

https://democracymanifest.substack.com/p/the-covert-event-201-pacific-eclipse

The event was kept under-the-radar for two years, until publication in the journal "Vaccine" two years later: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X21014304

No urgent pandemic preprint - even though participants "implemented lessons" when COVID was launched within a month.

From the editorial in Vaccine in 2022, by Professor Anthony Kelleher - Kirby Institute, UNSW Sydney, Australia: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8986154/

"Pacific Eclipse predicted a range of changes that COVID-19 would bring to the globe. The prescience and timeliness of this meeting, held on December 9th and 10th 2019, was extraordinary. Within a month, those attending the meeting, would be facing the SARS-CoV-2 epidemic, hopefully implementing many of the lessons learnt."

See this post for Part 1 (of three)-- input by Elizabeth Hart:

https://democracymanifest.substack.com/p/the-covert-event-201-pacific-eclipse

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Ah yes DemocracyManifest, Pacific Eclipse...

Was this pandemic tabletop simulation held in December 2019 influential on the response to 'Covid'?

'Covid'...otherwise known as a 'low risk infection...even in the absence of a vaccine', as acknowledged by US Department of Defense infectious disease expert Nelson Michael on 5 March 2020.

This startling admission might have remained buried, but you discovered it and reported on it in February 2024: https://democracymanifest.substack.com/p/pentagon-presser-5-march-2020

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A military-led 'biodefense' transnational security operation... Five Eyes up to their necks in this! "Fake Crisis, Real Tyranny".

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The Five Eyes betraying the people of the world, setting us up to be exploited by never-ending vaccines, testing, masking/muzzling, quarantine - and to be enslaved by a social credit system.

The treachery is off the scale.

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Indeed...Operation Warp Speed.

See my email to then UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson on this in November 2020: Coronavirus vaccination - heading towards disaster with this 'warp speed' response? https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/coronavirus-vax-heading-towards-disaster-with-this-warp-speed-response.pdf

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I wrote a letter to Boris telling him not to waste taxpayers' money on vaccines. He didn't listen of course.

It is sadly just as well as otherwise the masses would not have woken up to the real horrors of all vaccines and all the other evils in the world and few people would have been any the wiser.

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Thank you 🙏 🙏 Democracymanifest for repeatedly bringing this Dec 2019 covert pacific gathering ( Event 201 five👀 Pacific ) run by US DOD to attention. Invaluable with nation attendees identifiable. Extraordinary is right!!

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im fighting this mafia by putting 20 mini flyers everyday, called LuckDay on cars and I tape to gas pump screen. it says Covid is Test Scam, read Contagion Myth By Dr Tom Cowan md for details www.VirusTruth.NET

im leading as many as I can to water...

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This quote stood out to me:

"Our goal is to empower individuals and their communities with the knowledge to make informed health decisions for themselves and their families."

I humbly suggest they are mistaken. Their goal is to get people to take every recommended vaccination. They assume that "knowledge" will lead to the "informed decision" of getting vaxxed. That, however, is a mighty big assumption, one without positive proof. The world would be a very different place if people such as these actually cared about my health.

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We are making informed decisions though. We saw the insane push for vaccines and thought 'Hang on a minute...'

They have done us a favour by exposing who they really are and what they are about.

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Oct 27Liked by Jonathan Engler

Heidi Larson is also married to Peter Piot https://cepi.net/cepi-announces-new-permanent-board

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beware the pandemic treaty is far from dead in the water as many believe

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Apparently, another attempt is coming within about 3 weeks, according to something I recently read. Psychopaths will be psychopaths...

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yep the who meet on november 4th to try to finalise it

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us ordinary people need to fight back this is real war on humanity, on children , our future. we each have power and influence. i spend 30 min every day putting mini flyers on cars, taping to gas pump screens, slipping into convid test kits or mask boxes, leave a few in baby isle at stores, its easy to get creative.flyer called LuckyDay at www.VirusTruth.NET it gives the receiver free pdf to book Contagion Myth by Dr Tom Cowan md. im leaving this fight to my kids

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Hoorah for Elizabeth Hart!

In the current situation of almost ubiquitous, unsupplemented, levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D being a fraction of what the immune system needs to function properly (see all the research cited and discussed at: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/), if everyone attained at least 50 ng/mL, there would be far less incidence of cancer or infectious diseases caused by bacteria and viruses. In the case of infectious diseases, such as COVID-19, influenza etc. fully functioning immune systems not only reduce the chance of severe symptoms, but reduce the number of bacteria or virus particles shed, which greatly reduces the rate at which the disease can be transmitted through a population.

The whole vaccine and quasi-vaccine (mRNA and adenovirus vector) industry thrives not only on [1] overly positive accounts of the effectiveness of the treatments including due to counting window errors (https://okaythennews.substack.com/p/dodgy-data-covid-vaccine-clinical-b78), [2] inadequate research on adverse effects, including especially long term harm and death, [3] pervasive corruption of academic rigour and publishing standards to suppress better research and valid criticism of vaccines and quasi-vaccines, [4] marketing quasi-vaccines as if they were vaccines, such as trading on the high regard many people have for polio vaccines, [5] the common problem of people having excessive faith in the idea of a precisely controlled liquid being injected by a priestly class in order to protect them from harmful infectious diseases, [6] these beliefs leading many people to exert social pressure, and to support legal pressure, to force others into accepting the vaccines and quasi-vaccines . . . but also on the fact that the whole market for vaccines is far greater now than it would be if everyone's immune system was able to function properly due to them attaining, all year round, from birth, the 50 ng/mL 125 nmol/L (1 part in 20,000,000 by mass) level of circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D which many types of immune cell require as an input material to run their intracrine (inside each cell) and paracrine (to nearby cells) signaling systems.

These signaling systems are crucial to the ability of individual immune cells, of many types, to respond fully and rapidly to their changing circumstances.

UV-B skin exposure and foods, fortified with vitamin D3 or not, cannot safely and reliably attain the 50 ng/mL level of circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D (make primarily in the liver from vitamin D3 cholecalciferol, and as measured in "vitamin D" blood tests).

Fortunately, vitamin D3 supplementation in small quantities will attain this 25-hydroxyvitamin D level after several months, with the amount to take, on average, per day, depending on body weight and obesity status, with no need for medical monitoring or 25-hydroxyvitamin D blood tests: New Jersey based Professor of Medicine Sunil Wimalawansa has such recommendations https:// vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/#00-how-much. These are based on his article: "Rapidly Increasing Serum 25(OH)D Boosts the Immune System, against Infections - Sepsis and COVID-19" Nutrients 2022-07-21 http:// www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/14/2997 as simplified somewhat in his FLCCC webinar: https:// odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19CriticalCareAlliance:c/ Weeekly_Webinar_Aug16_2023:d?t=3386.

0.125 mg (5000 IU) a day on average is sufficient for 70 kg 154 lb body weight without obesity. This is about 8 times greater than what governments and many doctors recommend.

"5000 IUs a day" sounds like a lot, but it is 1/8000th of a gram = 1 gram every 22 years. Pharma grade vitamin D3 costs about USD$2.50 a gram ex-factory. A credit card weighs 5 grams.

Without proper vitamin D3 supplementation such as this, most people - at least in winter - have half or less (down to 1/10th) of the 50 ng/mL 125 nmol/L circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D they need to be healthy.

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Robin, I am so rattled now by the medical industry, so lacking in trust, I’m questioning all interventions…even supplements like Vitamin D.

For years we’ve been told to cover up, protect from the sun, particularly people like me with pale Celtic complexions.

I’m wondering about this now…was this part of the plan too, to prevent people accessing natural vitamin D?

I’ve seen suggestions a few minutes of sun exposure each day, sun permitting, is all that’s required?

Have you advice for people who would rather take a natural approach?

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i stopped all my meds making me sicker, stopped going to docs, stopped all vitamins, we dont know whats really in them. get sun eat the egg for Vitamin D eat the orange etc for Vitamin C. i got my health back and more important no more fear of viruses or illness www.VirusTruth.net share the love!

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Elizabeth,

I’m the same, I no longer take anything except one pain relieving medication.

No supplements, no NSAIDs, nothing.

Trust has gone to below zero.

I also cannot trust published research of any kind.

Mike

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Nearly then entire medical profession still is participating in the scam.

https://www.artbrokerage.com/Michael-Bedard/Ship-of-Fools-1990-135287

God help us all.

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covid is not real, and all the body needs is sun. not cancer causing sunscreen designed to make you sick like shots. read Contagion Myth by Dr Tom Cowan md for details free pdf at www.VirusTruth.net easy mini flyers i hand to masked souls and put on cars.

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As a physician who indeed had no significant didactic time dedicated to vaccinology in Medical school I am in agreement with Ms. Larson, though I suspect that any "education" I might receive from her ilk would be considered misinformation at best by any objective observer. I prefer to learn from the likes of you, Jonathan!

When will all of these "perpetraitors" face justice?

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justice is reading understanding book Contagion Myth by Dr Tom Cowan md and others at www.VirusTruth.NET free pdf short videos and link to more simple site for third graders.

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Here's another similar mRNA warning (buried in a 2016 article promoting Moderna) that lipid nanoparticles "can lead to dangerous side effects, especially if a patient has to take repeated doses over months or years":

> https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/13/moderna-therapeutics-biotech-mrna/

Interestingly, and ironically, this admission was made by the very same woman who won the 2023 Noble prize for the development of the mRNA technology:

> “I would say that mRNA is better suited for diseases where treatment for short duration is sufficiently curative, so the toxicities caused by delivery materials are less likely to occur,” said Katalin Karikó, a pioneer in the field who serves as a vice president at BioNTech.

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Jonathan, in reference to Heidi Larson's suggestion "we've shifted the human population to vaccine-induced, to dependency on vaccine-induced immunity...We're in a very fragile state now. We have developed a world that is dependent on vaccinations".

You say:

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This to me is quite astonishing as it suggests that she is aware that - assuming she isn’t theorising that circulating pathogens have become more dangerous - repeated vaccinations are damaging natural immunity to the extent that if people don’t have the injections they are less able to fight off the infections than if they’d not had them at all.

Even if this turns out not be true, it’s disturbing that one of the central characters in the pro-vaccine camp could hold these views and for that facet of the vaccine narrative to have been hidden from information available to the public which is germane to their assessment of risks and benefits.

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It is astonishing isn't it? That potential problems with vaccines might be hidden from public view.

Also think about this in another scenario - Marek's Disease.

Now Marek's Disease might turn out to be another beat-up, that's interesting to think about.

But in early 2021, when the Covid vaccines were being rushed out, there were some alarming angles to think about.

In this regard, please see this email thread with Andrew Read, author on the paper: Imperfect vaccination can enhance the transmission of highly virulent pathogens, published in 2015.

Could Covid-19 vaccines facilitate virulent variants? 30 January 2021: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/could-covid-19-vaccines-facilitate-virulent-variants-prof-andrew-read.pdf

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I love the part where she says "the medical education gets a half day on vaccines..." that's about what they get on nutrition and the bodies own immune system. Have any of your MDs talked about your lymphatic system and the important role it plays in immunity? Or what about gut health? Idk about you all but I've never heard one dr I've been to emphasize any of the aforementioned items. They know about as much on our innate immunity as they know about vaccines and that's scary. Big Harma has hijacked our medical education system from the beginning starting with the Flexner Report. The irony of it all is the same family pushing for "pharmakeia" uses naturopathy. Put that in your syringe and shoot it!

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I despise doctors. NHS ones failed to ask me anything about my diet in 1.5 years of examinations and tests. My palsy was primarily due to sodium nitrite (E250).

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/sodium-nitrite-e250-the-poison-in?utm_source=publication-search

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We have a very wobbly health professional front-line". I think post covid injection they have an even wobblier health professional front-line, many people now see that informed consent to any vaccine is a fallacy because consent was based on omission and obfuscation of information and that includes clinical vaccine trials. How can people analyse the outcomes, benefits and risks of vaccination when they do not have all the information available to them? Why do they not make all information pertaining to vaccines available to the public and give us proof of independent robust data from gold standard clinical trials with no influence from pharmaceutical or government agencies for all vaccines. I think because their vaccine house of cards will collapse and we will see how really insubstantial the whole platform is.

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You are right. She said, "We’re in a very fragile state now. We have developed a world that is dependent on vaccinations." If she thinks this then she is an apostate - whether she knows it or not. I bet she did not take it, or if she did did not want to.

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this is misunderstood, no one is dependent on vaxxines bec virus are dead cell debris not contagious. all ingredients in shots are poison toxins. big pharm is dependent on them to make population sicker and on more meds. a hamsterwheel. this website frees you from the cage and wheel www.VirusTruth.NET many free books. video lectures.

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Thanks Jonathan. Elizabeth Hart has done us proud finding all that. I see Heidi Larson has a book 'STUCK: How Vaccine Rumors Start – and Why They Don’t Go Away'

Rumours of vaccines allegedly working started because of Edward Jenners greed and stupidity. They don't go away becuase of pharma companies greed and stupidity.

There you are, answered that, you don't have to buy the book now!

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I think what Heidi Larson means is what I have worried about. When I was a kid, measles, mumps and chicken pox came around every couple years and we all caught them at some point. We developed immunity AS CHILDREN! If you catch some of these diseases as adults, they are much more serious. Now, an unvaccinated child is unlikely to be exposed to measles, mumps or chicken pox, and therefore develops no immunity as a child.

What Heidi is saying is if you want immunity today, you can only get it from a vaccine. If all vaccinations were stopped, there would be serious consequences to teens and adults catching these diseases, until normal childhood immunity was established once again

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The thing is natural immunity is not the case so much as buidling a strong healthy body. We don't have natural immunity from a disease but a varying capability to live well dependin on the inputs to our body.

If we lack something we need, minerals, vitamins etc or if we are poisoned, affected by stress etc. we fall ill with varying symptoms.

But we get what are called certain diseases regardless again and again if we don't maintain an equilibrium at all times.

if vaccines are stopped people would be healthier with less risk of disease. Big pharma etc. would be less wealthier and a good thing too.

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