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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Imagine seeing this and still thinking the death spikes of spring 2020 weren't model-based and should be accepted as-is, prima facie, no questions please.

THAT would be weird, right? ;)

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Rosemary B's avatar

this is exactly as you say "a snazzy-looking paper presenting some pseudo-sophisticated “projections” based on some ludicrous and unsubstantiated assumptions."

Some one had a flash of creativity and even made some cute graphs and used a few colors.

Wow. It looks just a little bit like one of my daughters' science fair projects 😂

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Madam Stakeholder's avatar

This BCG document reminds me of this "white paper" issued by MITRE March 18, 2020:

https://www.mitre.org/sites/default/files/2021-11/COVID-19-MITRE-Action-Paper-Mar-2020.pdf

("STOPPING COVID-19: SHORT-TERM ACTIONS FOR LONG-TERM IMPACT").

You've got to read it, Dr. Engler (and @JESSICAHOCKETT too).

EXCERPT:

[W]e must slow the pace of infection through the widespread implementation of social distancing actions. To truly suppress the progression of COVID-19, which is propagated through person-to-person transmission, the U.S. population's contact rate must be significantly reduced through mobility restrictions and other means of social distancing. These measures include restricting domestic and international travel, encouraging the closure of certain businesses, incentivizing work-at-home policies, closing schools and universities, canceling concerts and sporting events, limiting numbers in restaurants and other social gathering places, and, in extreme situations, incentivizing quarantine-related actions. We estimate that we will have to reduce the human-to-human contact rate of our citizens by approximately 90 percent to successfully suppress COVID-19.

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MITRE website portal: https://www.mitre.org/news-insights/publication/white-paper-stopping-covid-19-short-term-actions-long-term-impact

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Jonathan Engler's avatar

I had never heard of MITRE. I see it was spawned from military origins. Any idea who / what drives it and how influential it is?

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Madam Stakeholder's avatar

What/who drives MITRE? How influential is it?

Short answers:

Who/what drives it is primarily (but not solely) the many Federal Agencies that hire its services and products. That is outwardly—but MITRE definitely gives off vibes of globalist synergies and McKinsey-type hidden/unknown hands. One gets the impression that its creator and enabler, Congress, has lost control of the beast (if it ever even had control—or wanted control).

How influential is it? I'd say that MITRE is a significant "branch" of Fed Govt outsourcing (and Fed Govt massive size & overreach). MITRE's areas of "expertise" (such as they are) definitely inform decision-making and policy (and, I suppose, agenda). Whether due to laziness, limited intellectual resources and knowledge, "back-scratching," habit, plausible unaccountability, and other reasons/motives good & bad, officials/politicians/bureaucrats lean heavily on MITRE to do the jobs they can't do and/or don't want to do. And whether those jobs are vital or not, "corporations" such as MITRE are a means by which/through which the too-big government gets to thrive.

Why did MITRE eXPeRtS issue that (inane) harsh-lockdown Paper on March 18, 2020? I can only guess—I can only speculate as to MANY possible whys. (I'll spare you my brainstorming results.) "They" (the MITRE MANIACS) should be called before Congress to explain themselves (which will never happen). No one in his right mind would recommend 90% no human contact (for gawd knows how long)! As to whether the Paper had any influence and on whom, I don't know. But since HHS, DoD, DHS, and many other Agencies have close & longstanding relationships with MITRE, I suspect the Paper was not tossed in the trash bin unread.

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Madam Stakeholder's avatar

Long "answers":

I claim no expertise or inside knowledge, but I did do a fair amount of research on MITRE after I swerved into the "STOPPING COVID-19: SHORT-TERM ACTIONS FOR LONG-TERM IMPACT" "white paper" on June 11, 2025.

You (anyone) could spend all day (all week!) investigating (and analyzing) MITRE (aka Mitre). One thing you'll figure out in short order is that what MITRE says it is/says it does is not always necessarily what it actually is/does. And what others say about MITRE (for example, "MITRE’s sole focus is to operate FFRDCs [Federally Funded Research and Development Centers]" from this 2016 writeup [https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/87454-working-in-the-public-interest]) can also be flagrant bullhooey. MITRE is undoubtedly guilty of mission creep and more (obviously, for example, the "lockdown"/social-distancing advisory document was not attributed to MITRE's Health FFRDC).

If you've scrutinized that 18 March 2020 paper, you'll have noted that MITRE claims it was authored by MITRE's "infectious disease analytics team." There is no such team (established/ongoing) that I could find/identify (before, during, or since the Paper). One might identify certain persons/personnel who may fit the bill. Though I haven't exhaustively explored, I am under the impression that LinkedIn is a bountiful/lively resource for examining MITRE people (as well as MITRE activities and events). Perhaps you also noted that the Paper states, "Reference materials are available upon request." It would be fun for someone with credentials (such as Dr. Jonathan Engler😏) to inquire about these "reference materials."

One name I'll highlight is Dr. Monique K. Mansoura. She appears to track with the entire "enterprise"—from the Human Genome Project, to joining MITRE, to a (fishy, imo) concern for cancer, and much in between aligning with 21st-century $camdemic catastrophizing. I'm guessing she was a primary player behind MITRE's elusive "infectious disease analytics team."

READ these two links about her:

https://www.iceccancer.org/about-icec/leadership/monique-k-mansoura-phd-mba/

AND

https://www.newswise.com/users/expert/Monique-Mansoura-10049018

BACK TO MITRE…

Of course you can read what the "not-for-profit company" has to say about itself at its site (eg, here: https://www.mitre.org/who-we-are ). And this one-pager from MITRE (March 2023) tells you a lot (if you read every word): https://www.mitre.org/sites/default/files/2023-05/PR-23-00371-Medical-Countermeasures.pdf.

You (one/anyone) can also make yourself aware of a couple of the honorable(🙄) endeavors that MITRE spearheaded in conjunction with the strange year of 2020 and the covid event:

Meet MITRE's "SQUINT" initiative/project:

https://web.archive.org/web/20201205061217/https://squint.mitre.org/

I'd have given you SQUINT info from MITRE's live website, but inexplicably(🤔) the MITRE powers-that-be have gone to some length to scrub their SQUINT history (though I did first learn about it from here: https://www.mitre.org/publications/project-stories/pioneering-new-ways-to-protect-our-nation).

Also allow me to introduce you to (one of) MITRE's (fabulously fascist) vaccine passport pushes:

https://www.mitre.org/news/press-releases/coalition-of-health-technology-industry-leaders-announce-vaccination-credential-initiative (14 Jan 2021). (Here's more info on this MITRE-led Vaccination Credential Initiative [VCI]: https://archive.ph/qiVKw.)

More generally/broadly, this page gives a good overview of MITRE:

https://craft.co/mitre

As you study this^ page, you will see mention of RAND Corp (and some "similar 'companies'"). RAND is a lot like MITRE; in fact, if you explore (such as searching "MITRE"+"RAND" in your DuckDuckGo), you will immediately see a revolving door (figuratively if not literally) between the two legacies of 20th-century fascism/"public private partnership" given to the world by United States Congresses since 1958 and 1948 (respectively) to "provide research, analysis, and technical expertise" (quoting a search result I didn't make record of).

Whether you describe MITRE as an NGO, a GONGO (Government-Organized Non-Governmental Organization), a think tank, a consultancy, a GOCO (Government-Owned, Contractor-Operated research center[s]), a tentacle[s] of the military-intelligence industrial complex, an American not-for-profit organization (per: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitre_Corporation ), a nonpartisan/independent/unbiased adviser to government policymakers, a special contractor, or whatever other labels, it's clear that the corporation is an insider that advises and influences (and in some cases & ways operates/manages) governments (agencies and personnel at every level). MITRE is also inside academia and commercial industry (which, as we know by now, are both mostly governments' bedfellows anyway—barely a cigarette paper between 'em).

"Fun" fact: On or about the first half of May 2020, Trump 1.0/CMS solicited MITRE to convene and manage a Commission called "Coronavirus Commission on Safety and Quality in Nursing Homes." Here's their Report (1a AND/OR 1b) and some coverage of the endeavor (2 & 3):

1a) https://edit.cms.gov/files/document/covid-final-nh-commission-report.pdf

1b) https://sites.mitre.org/nhcovidcomm/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2020/09/FINAL-REPORT-of-NH-Commission-Public-Release-Case-20-2378.pdf

2) https://web.archive.org/web/20201102075212/https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-response-in-nursing-homes-faulted-by-federal-panel-11600302869

3) https://www.johnahartford.org/resources/view/final-report-the-coronavirus-commission-for-safety-and-quality-in-nursing-homes (Dead links here suggest MITRE doing memory-holing, but I didn't attempt to "detective" it all, so I really can't say what if anything is going on.)

The Congressional Research Service (an analysis arm within the US Congress) issued this Report, "Federally Funded Research and Development Centers (FFRDCs): Background and Issues for Congress," on August 27, 2021. It's packed with info about MITRE (and the like):

https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/R/PDF/R44629/R44629.8.pdf

Here's a very helpful (and yikes👀) overview of FFRDCs (applicable to MITRE, but not MITRE specific):

https://www.dau.edu/acquipedia-article/federally-funded-research-and-development-centers-ffrdc

MITRE is a featured WikiSpook. Though the coverage is not especially impressive, it's worth a glance:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Mitre_Corporation

Finally, while I'm not usually a fan of or consumer of Natural News (and its personnel and affiliates), to their credit, they (mostly Ethan Huff) have covered MITRE and its activities from a skeptical/disapproving perspective. Their MITRE coverage can be accessed here:

https://www.naturalnews.com/Search.asp?query=MITRE

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

RAND

https://www.rand.org/pubs/authors/b/bhattacharya_jay.html

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB9324.html

"Policymakers face the challenge of understanding and managing future Medicare spending. Under current projections, it will rise from 2.6 percent of gross domestic product today to 9.2 percent in 2050. Demographics will be a key factor: The first wave of baby boomers turns 65 in 2010. But what if some biomedical advance revolutionizes medical practice? What if a cure were found for one of the deadliest diseases? What if the health status of the elderly continues to improve? What if prevention efforts become more effective? Would such changes ease Medicare's financing problems?"

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Madam Stakeholder's avatar

Yep. Concerns like "cost per additional life year" occupy economists and governments forecasting the future of Medicare (and medicine). When Medical Nemesis writes about statistics, and men with calculators, and Seeing Like A State, she is well aware of these occupations. Where Katherine Watt (for example) sees depopulation and poisoning and bioweapons and the kill box, MN (for example) sees utilitarianism (roughly). Both see (and condemn) types and manifestations of dehumanization, but draw from different sources/focuses and draw different conclusions. Even when they (my two examples here) draw from similar information, their interpretations are likely markedly different (though there is overlap).

To oversimplify: Are we confronted and threatened by willful wickedness or sterile banality? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that one of the reasons Ms. Watt was unable to get certain Brownstoners to engage with her is due to her apocalyptic high drama and extreme characterizations. Which is not to say that the permitted protectors of Public Health (you know who and what I'm referring to) would listen to and HEAR her regardless—because they mostly will not. I'm nearly to the point of calling Brownstoners a cult. Their rigid beliefs in things that just ain't so almost blows my mind. This will be a topic (among certain others on my mind) if I decide to write any Substack articles/essays.

I sincerely doubt that the likes of RAND Corp sincerely give a flying flip about saving lives and the well-being of persons and peoples. But I'm also skeptical that they're devoted to trying to figure out how to kill all the surplus population. That said, there ARE a heck of a lot of unmanageable human beings, and how to sustain the faceless hoards is not an entirely unreasonable concern—especially given the modern welfare state (states plural; I'm not just referring to the USA). The psychopaths and maniacs want to central plan and control everything, and the "population"/"public" of sheeple to slaughter want and expect the "central planners" to sustain and protect them. What's a globalist think tank supposed to do?

We are poorly—and overly—governed. I think MOST of our problems are due to/caused by poor governance—which includes an abundance of manipulative lies (from flu vaccination ideology to the climate change con). I'm not going to solve (let alone address) all the problems in this paragraph. So I'll just say that, although I do think we (the masses) are being heinously/egregiously victimized and ruined by the governing/ruling apparatuses, and I do think the scamdemic (and scamdemics in general) has been a crime for the ages, and I do desperately want severe due reckoning and a civilization shift, I don't think EVERYTHING is a top-down/militarized murder/democide plot. There are many levels to this, and there are hordes of people who are bad and "just" misguided who are participating in the non-reckoning/non-shift—but I lean toward "banal" explanations as opposed to dramatic (literary/Hollywood) versions of events as presented by Watt, Latypova, and Lerman (and their acolytes).

Where does the kindly Dr. Bhattacharya fit? He sees like a State. He is a type of "enlightened" elitist. Maybe somewhere along the way he decided that if he couldn't defeat the dehumanizers, he'd join them but as a kinder/gentler/better statistician/"scientist"/authoritarian. Was it his upbringing or was he naturally drawn to be a medical/public-health economist? Talk about banal! I understand that we all have to make a living one way or another (and we're all unique in our aptitudes). I think what grates about Bhattacharya in particular is that he's worshiped by the victims of his worldview/approach/life's work. A strong reason why I connect with you, dear Ms. Jessica, is because you see (and feel) this too. If we are to clean up this mess, "good" guys like Dr. B (and Rand Paul) need to be on their heels (and on their knees)—yet presently they're on pedestals if not altars. Anyone and everyone who won't acknowledge, at minimum, that the Great Scamdemic was an illegitimate emergency, a lie, and a civilizational-scale error is discredited and fair/legitimate game. (Similarly, Ms. Lerman straddles the fence and wants her cake and to eat it to. She's not a bad person, and yet she IS part of the problem [and holds selective beliefs that I KNOW miss the mark]. And, no matter her protests, I know she is a dyed-in-the-wool person of the Left.). Sigh….

I, for one, strongly encourage you to keep on keeping on, Ms. J, and to maintain your independence from ALL of the "extremists," as well as your focus (eg, NYC did not happen and the official record is a LIE). Take what you can from them and with them, but be careful. I'll refrain from naming additional names that I haven't already mentioned above, and I'll save the rest for a more appropriate venue (such as my own Substack page).

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Concur*

"The government is trying to kill you" is not my message

That is fear-based and, ultimately, empowers corrupt individuals and entities

"The government is trying to game you, is breaking the law, and you need to remember who's really in charge here and act accordingly," is more the vibe

EDIT: concur on many things above but not all. I don't think the population needs to be "managed" or that overpop. is some kind of real problem (now or on the future).

The idea that we need to be "governed" per se isn't how I think of things.

Governing authorities' chief role is to act as deterrent to( and punisher of) evil/immoral conduct. "Keeping people safe" (for ex) is not on the list of duties

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Thanks, will review

Similar to the McKinsey propaganda

Once people view the operation as a global war simulation, these things become much easier to analyze and see for what they are

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