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Markker's avatar

I recall Prof Bhakti saying he foresees a huge increase in TB after Covid jabs due to immunocompromisation.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Thanks Jonathan, more vaccine nonsense then. I had a BCG vaccine in 1975. I was very ill that late spring with fever, up to certainly 104F. In sanatorium at school for 2 weeks. Took me all summer to regain my strength. I suspect the vaccine was the cause.

Anyway this is a new vaccine being worked on by Alemnew Dagnew. I suppose they had to have someone with new at the end of each of his names!

I see that there are videos for a new TB vaccine on YouTube.

So that’s YouTuberculosis!

What a load of 'bercs' they are.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

Good summary & insights.

The result that should be trumpeted everywhere - and tells us everything we need to know about much - is the one you found in the supplemental materials (where the good stuff tends to be buried):

"respiratory symptoms were more than twice as common in the vaccinated group compared to placebo (19.6% vs 8.6%)"

Incredible.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

With all the manipulation they can do, like vioxx and others.... They decide to have those numbers on their report? Pfizer's COVID shot also had sorry numbers.

I think aduhelm too. That's the Alzheimer's drug that was passed where 2 of the voting members resigned.

Are they blackmailing eachother? 😂

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Leynia's avatar

Could "they' please focus their attention on preventing this and other illnesses through improved health and overall immune status? Vitamin D/sunshine, nutrition/affordable food, sound public health measures, etc? Otherwise they will vaccinate against every virus in town --and out of town, too.

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Billy Bob's avatar

Nah, vaccines are money makers and reduces the number of folks that meed improved living standards. Kill shots, vs cost of improved sanitation standards wins every time.

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Leynia's avatar

I agree entirely, Billy Bob. Thanks for replying in the way you did. I enjoyed it. I was trying out logic for fun.

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Inverted Reality's avatar

So refreshing!

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Francois van Heerden's avatar

TB is a disease of poverty and malnutrition. There is no need of a vaccine. Feed people nutritious food and you will eliminate the disease.

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NotJason's avatar

What a load of bollocks! I live in South Africa. We have an EXCEPTIONALLY high prevalence of TB here. I would take a dart at nearly everyone living here, having latent TB infections..... but it only takes hold of the HIV population group (maybe now the transfected ones as well......?). TB has been rife in our Mining Industry for decades. and is, as you state treatable. There is however a resistant strain of TB. I am sure this is from the combination of HIV/immune supressed ppl and poor management of medications (people not finishing their course, poverty levels forcing ppl to share treatments amongst families, as well as their medication not being managed properly by doctors).

The adjuvants are lipids and saponin......so more Genetic Therapy.....

"Areas covered: AS01 is a liposome-based vaccine adjuvant system containing two immunostimulants: 3-O-desacyl-4'-monophosphoryl lipid A (MPL) and the saponin QS-21."

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currer's avatar

South Africa is likely to be a target population for this vaccine, don't you think?

It seems to be formulated with cholesterol, so will it accumulate in the ovaries?

"The adjuvant part is AS01E, a combination of QS-21, cholesterol, and monophosphoryl lipid A (MPL).[3]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M72/AS01E

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currer's avatar

As far as I can find out from the article, the adjuvant is AS0 (typo?) or AS01. It appears to be another liposomal vaccine, similar to the coronavirus LNP. The liposome is synthetic as far as I can make out (just looking quickly here)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39042099/

Needs more research I think to find out exactly what is in this untried stuff. Remember the LNPs in the covid vax are inflammatory, and accumulate in the ovaries as the LNP contains cholesterol and so is preferentially taken up by steroid producing organs.

First developed by GSK, the M72/AS01E vaccine is made up of a fusion of two TB antigens combined with an adjuvant (AS0) to boost the body’s immune response.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

It's the tech that proved it was a winner in the hurt department. That's why they picked it, after they started getting heat for the aluminum and other adjuvants.

https://robc137.substack.com/p/years-before-mrna-and-spike-protein

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currer's avatar

Very interesting thanks for the link, Rob.

I have heard a report that the German pathologist Arne Burkhardt, was unsure eventually, whether the pathologies he was seeing in the cells were due to "spike protein" or the LNPs.

Because I suppose the LNPs carry the RNA internal contents to each cell, and a cell that stains positive for "spike" will also be impacted by the carrier - the LNP even though this will not show as an antibody stain.

I put "spike" in inverted commas because Latypova has shown that much of what is produced is truncated, incomplete protein and not compliant with the full length spike protein at all.

The entire narrative about these "vaccines" is so rife with falsehood and lies we cannot take anything we have been told for granted, and reason from there in a logical manner.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

My theory is that the mRNA is the story to promote the lipids. Sci fi bullshit. 😂

https://robc137.substack.com/p/allergic-to-bullshit

I agree with Sasha that the proteins found are broken proteins. Same with CJD, prions are "misfolded proteins"... Or just damaged proteins?

How exactly do they break down and transfer this mRNA?

The original application was for "rare diseases" which is really just a license to test poison. That's how they came up with chemotherapy for cancer 😂

But with the LNPs, they're inert and technically aren't poison but they don't break down so they end up clogging up the vascular system.

It's like putting sand in your engine oil or gas.

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currer's avatar

There is this article from New Zealand on the pathogenic potential of the LNPs which they associate with the abnormal clotting.

https://nzdsos.com/2024/09/17/the-white-clots-story-is-here-to-stay/

Greg Harrison presents evidence that ingredients in the lipid nanoparticles (which encapsulated the supposed modified RNA destined to produce spike protein inside the cells) may trigger an abnormal clotting process, possibly at the moment that these nanoparticles fuse with the membranes of the cells that line the blood vessels into which the vaccine is taken up randomly. This process has many aspects but particularly involves the element phosphorous and the clot precursor protein fibronectin.

These starting clots may initially be tiny conglomerates, free in the blood stream, which can anchor at sites of inflammation – which inevitably are provoked when the immune system attacks the spike proteins as they are poked back out through the blood vessel walls after production. Or the clots can be initiated at this point. Once attached at the site of inflammation in a blood vessel wall, a self-perpetuating process of polymerisation occurs, with replicating protein structures binding tightly together in an ever-increasing mass.

Electrochemical charges, blood flow, and the lack of the usual platelets and red cells in the clot substance, keep the clot growing downstream in the centre of the vein or artery, decreasing blood flow. This may not produce any symptoms as the blood is still flowing around the clot, but eventually an important blood vessel may block enough to cause symptoms or even death.

Detailed analysis of the protein composition is mostly complete. These are known human proteins but triggered to act harmfully by the presence of artifical lipid nanoparticles, possibly the induced spike protein, and tin, an industrial metal that accumulates in humans, especially via PVC water pipes. Tin strongly boosts the crosslinking of the clot subunits, which explains the structure and behaviour of the ‘finished product’.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Thanks for the info. I usually don't dig deep these days because it's hard to tell what's real or just another bs study/paper.

Academia is really stunted! This explains why:

https://iainmcgilchrist.substack.com/p/moving-on

It's also interesting that the non lipid Johnson, Astra Zeneca, and Sputnik V shots also caused clotting issues.

Supposedly they had polysorbate 80, which can do similar things like the PEG-lipids combo of the "mRna"shots.

The past shots had toxic adjuvants, vegetable oils like peanut oil (allergies anyone?), and aluminum. The symptoms were more gradual, like Lyme disease or lupus like autoimmune issues.

More and more it looks like these lipids are the "future", probably because it's harder to prove that they caused the damage than aluminum which we know can be toxic.

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currer's avatar

The New Zealand link is from New Zealand Doctors Speak out on Science NZSOS, a patient organisation and they has an independent expert opinion - there is a video which is highly technical.

So this is not pharma zombie science.

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currer's avatar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M72/AS01E

The vaccine consists of two main ingredients. The antigen part is M72, a recombinant fusion protein derived from the sequences of two M. tuberculosis antigens (Mtb32A O07175 and Mtb39A L7N675). The adjuvant part is AS01E, a combination of QS-21, cholesterol, and monophosphoryl lipid A (MPL).[3]

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Cees Mul's avatar

Disgusting. TB disappeared in our part of the world through improved living conditions. Like almost all infectious diseases. Again i recommend ‘dissolving illusions’ by susan humphries and Roman Bystrianik. Puzzled why so many people still follow the vaxx narrative. Lack of critical thinking combined with lack of knowledge and lack of curiosity?

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Iam Censored's avatar

Here is a summary of the TB case counts for the United States from 1953 to 2022:

1953: 84,304 cases

1954: 80,738 cases

1955: 74,449 cases

1956: 69,734 cases

1957: 66,448 cases

1958: 64,264 cases

1959: 62,664 cases

1960: 61,646 cases

1961: 60,162 cases

1962: 58,520 cases

1963: 56,043 cases

1964: 53,725 cases

1965: 51,685 cases

1966: 49,841 cases

1967: 48,199 cases

1968: 46,653 cases

1969: 45,172 cases

1970: 43,756 cases

1971: 42,465 cases

1972: 41,273 cases

1973: 40,166 cases

1974: 39,123 cases

1975: 38,126 cases

1976: 37,185 cases

1977: 36,299 cases

1978: 35,465 cases

1979: 34,676 cases

1980: 33,925 cases

1981: 33,211 cases

1982: 32,533 cases

1983: 31,886 cases

1984: 31,269 cases

1985: 30,682 cases

1986: 30,121 cases

1987: 29,585 cases

1988: 29,072 cases

1989: 28,581 cases

1990: 28,111 cases

1991: 27,661 cases

1992: 27,229 cases

1993: 26,816 cases

1994: 26,421 cases

1995: 26,042 cases

1996: 25,683 cases

1997: 25,341 cases

1998: 25,015 cases

1999: 24,705 cases

2000: 24,409 cases

2001: 24,125 cases

2002: 23,854 cases

2003: 23,596 cases

2004: 23,349 cases

2005: 23,112 cases

2006: 22,885 cases

2007: 22,668 cases

2008: 22,460 cases

2009: 22,260 cases

2010: 22,069 cases

2011: 21,886 cases

2012: 21,709 cases

2013: 21,537 cases

2014: 21,370 cases

2015: 21,208 cases

2016: 21,050 cases

2017: 20,900 cases

2018: 20,757 cases

2019: 20,622 cases

2020: 20,487 cases

2021: 8,300 cases

2022: 8,320 cases

2023: 9,615 cases

Keep in mind, these case figures are actual reported case numbers, and when compared to total population the conversation becomes a non-starter even at it highest case count. Can you think of anything with less significance? Notice the sudden effective disappearance of TB cases from 2020 to 2021. Can anyone guess what happened in 2020 that all but eliminated TB over the following four years? Everything from the common sniffles to TB, to fatal gunshot wounds to the head and accidental deaths, were necessarily reclassified, but to what I wonder? Now, look at the sudden directional change in 2023. I can promise you that no matter how high of a case number they publish in the coming years, the only things you will need to protect yourself from is propaganda and doctors. Brace yourselves.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

It seems that they couldn't rig the studies like they used to.

Vioxx managed to have good data?!

I also found that odd with the COVID Pfizer trial data. Obviously they were rigging the trial to make it look better but they somehow got bad results still? It's so shady and corrupt because the whole thing was a DOD operation warp speed, so couldn't the manufacturer make a special "good"batch for the trial?

I sense that both sides of this transaction are kind of doing this blackmail thing. If one side doesn't deliver, the other can out them.

So this looks like another "project" instead of pharma trying to make money.

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currer's avatar

The Pfizer coronavirus trial vaccines were produced differently to the eventual products for the market. The marketed vaccines were produced using bacterial plasmids, in the trial vaccines, the RNA was made using PCR.

The trial vaxes were "cleaner" and did not contain bacterial DNA or the SV40 promoter. (Which was not declared to the regulators)

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gusman's avatar

scam demic

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The Wiltster's avatar

The vaccine scam knows no boundary. Regardless of how ludicrous the numbers, how small the legitimate risk, how treatable those cases that do break through, the vaccinate-everyone-now machinery keeps churning out B.S. I am almost certain everyone here already knows this. Bill Gates started investing in not-for-profits generally and vaccines specifically because the ROI was leaps and bounds higher than in the technology sector with which he is normally associated. Let that sink in. It's a money grab and a lucrative one. It's not concern; it's cash.

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Pirate david's avatar

🤦🏻‍♂️

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Rosemary B's avatar

"every one run quickly quiiiccckkkly to your Walgreens and get your TB vaccines and all of your other vaccines too" "right away"

nope.

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Dee Dee's avatar

Their greed is so obvious now.

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Pete Ross's avatar

The psyops getting more & more obvious until the normies wake up.

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gusman's avatar

latenowweboughtconvid

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